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Do you believe in evolution?

Yes 657 75.69%
 
Mostly, some things are questionable. 74 8.53%
 
No 99 11.41%
 
Not really, but some could be true. 38 4.38%
 
Total:868
marioboy2004 said:
JWeinCom said:

1.  We didn't.  We have a common ancestor with apes.  

2.  It didn't.  We didn't evolve from monkeys either.  The capability for abstract thought is not a uniquely human trait.  Crows, dolphins, cats, dogs, and even baby ducklings show the capacity for abstract thought.  Pigs can play videogames.

Humans are much better at it because our forebrains are more developed compared to other animals.  This capability is absolutely 100% dependent on this area of the brain.  When this part of the brain is damaged, we lose that ability.  Look up Phineas Gage for instance. account for human conscience, free will

So how does evolution account for human conscience?  any evidence or do I have to have a lot of FAITH

I can't answer that, because I'm not sure exactly what you mean by conscience.  It's a nebulous phrase that has been used in different ways.  Define it for me, and then I can address it. 



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It's a lot more logical than being molded from clay and somebody's stinky breath lol.



JWeinCom said:

When someone says the theory of evolution, they are erroneously referring to something that does not exist as an actual scientific theory.

If you mean that there is a theory of evolution in the sense that people use that phrase, then yeah I guess.  If you mean that there is an actual scientific theory called "the theory of evolution" then no it isn't.  There are several different theories explaining evolution the most prominent is the theory of evolution by natural selection. 

The theory of evolution is a misnomer.  It's a misnomer that suggests evolution itself is in question, so it should be avoided.  

I cannot agree with that as per what I outlined prior. So we shall agree to disagree.



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Pemalite said:
JWeinCom said:

When someone says the theory of evolution, they are erroneously referring to something that does not exist as an actual scientific theory.

If you mean that there is a theory of evolution in the sense that people use that phrase, then yeah I guess.  If you mean that there is an actual scientific theory called "the theory of evolution" then no it isn't.  There are several different theories explaining evolution the most prominent is the theory of evolution by natural selection. 

The theory of evolution is a misnomer.  It's a misnomer that suggests evolution itself is in question, so it should be avoided.  

I cannot agree with that as per what I outlined prior. So we shall agree to disagree.

Alright.  Seems like semantics anyway.



There are no such evolutionary transitions that have ever been observed in the fossil record of the past; and the universal law of entropy seems to make it impossible on any significant scale.

Evolutionists claim that evolution is a scientific fact, but they almost always lose scientific debates with creationist scientists. Accordingly, most evolutionists now decline opportunities for scientific debates, preferring instead to make unilateral attacks on creationists.



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craighopkins said:
There are no such evolutionary transitions that have ever been observed in the fossil record of the past; and the universal law of entropy seems to make it impossible on any significant scale.

Evolutionists claim that evolution is a scientific fact, but they almost always lose scientific debates with creationist scientists. Accordingly, most evolutionists now decline opportunities for scientific debates, preferring instead to make unilateral attacks on creationists.

1) Yes there are evolutionary transitions observed in the fossil record. Scale isn't required. Take a look at the fossil record for Horses, which we have a surprising amount of transitional fossil records for.

2) Just because there may be a few missing links that we haven't discovered yet (Note: Yet) that doesn't justify the existence of God or debunk Evolutionary Theory.

3) It is fact because of the fossil record, observing evolutionary changes in micro-biology and various organisms in real time, in real life. (Which I outlined prior.)

4) Creationist Scientists aren't a thing.
The Bible is not evidence and is scientifically inaccurate. (Case in point: The Bible cannot even be accurate with basic math such as P.I.)

Untill you can prove that all the claims in the Bible are 100% accurate. (Such as proving the existence of a God) creationists will not be taken seriously in any legitimate scientific circles.

The only thing your theology has is faith, which is belief without evidence. Ergo. Impossible to ever be scientific.



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that's a slightly less disappointing figure than I expected considering the many possible sources

I can sleep a bit easier knowing the sheep aren't quite as real as perceived



marioboy2004 said:
smroadkill15 said:

When I say evolution, I mean the first vertebrate animals to homo sapiens. It doesn't matter to me if you do or don't, I'm simply curious. Feel free to post your feelings on why or why not. I would rather it steer clear of any unconstructive arguments. Please don't name call because someone doesn't agree with you. If you want to know more about why someone feels that way, ask them nicely. 

Thank you, have a nice day! 

2 questions for those we believe we came from apes...

1.  Where is the missing link or the half man half ape?  The middle of evolution is not there but only the most primitive monkey, and the most advanced man

2.  When and how did the monkey get a human conscience and morality, the capability for abstract thought like math, music, science, legal judgement..?



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Even if there weren't insurmountable evidence, simple logic dicrates that traits that lead to success and survival would become dominant as those that lack those traits die off faster, before multiplying.



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Just look at the endless type of tiny dog breeds that could not survive a day by themselves in the wild. If humans are able to breed this many types of different animals out of one species, why wouldn't the same happen in nature?

Nature simply kills off the ones that can't survive or adapt and the rest will keep evolving further or die out once they are unable to adapt to any changes in the environment.



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