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Forums - Politics Discussion - Germany hate crime: Nearly 10 attacks a day on migrants in 2016

Saeko said:
Puppyroach said:

Applying a general behaviour to a diverse group when only a small percentage commit crimes is the very definition of bigotry, just saying.

OT: This is what happens when ultra nationalists spread fear and intolerance and ignorance. We need more liberal forces to oppose this trend and actually argue for more open borders and inclusion, not the opposite.

Agree with you, but they need get work for everyone, and atm there is more and more unwork ppl, so ultra nationalists have easy time to spread fear.

Agreed, access to work and education for migrants should be the focus right now.



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Very one-sided observation. How many hundred attacks are made on Germans every day, how many rapes and rape attempts, how many sexual assaults, how many cases of armed robbery and how many terrorist attacks?

Violence is always bad but focusing on one side is equal to denying the truth. But left-fascists are closing their eyes and want to see German people suffer and die.



GribbleGrunger said:

What do people expect? Immigrants have been killing, raping and attacking Europeans for years now while the press and the governments cover it up. Go back to your fluffy little world and let the people who have to suffer this reality deal with it.

In some wel documented cases. Attacks against migrants are usually the ones being underreported.



etking said:
Very one-sided observation. How many hundred attacks are made on Germans every day, how many rapes and rape attempts, how many sexual assaults, how many cases of armed robbery and how many terrorist attacks?

Violence is always bad but focusing on one side is equal to denying the truth. But left-fascists are closing their eyes and want to see German people suffer and die.

1. left-fascism doesn't exist

2. You people would claim migrants only rape an assault and kill while it's been statistically shown assaults against migrants are by far more common.



WolfpackN64 said:
etking said:
Very one-sided observation. How many hundred attacks are made on Germans every day, how many rapes and rape attempts, how many sexual assaults, how many cases of armed robbery and how many terrorist attacks?

Violence is always bad but focusing on one side is equal to denying the truth. But left-fascists are closing their eyes and want to see German people suffer and die.

1. left-fascism doesn't exist

2. You people would claim migrants only rape an assault and kill while it's been statistically shown assaults against migrants are by far more common.

On the 2nd point, there's no real data to prove it's a mutally exclusive thing. People are most likely to commit a crime against someone that looks like them. 



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etking said:
Very one-sided observation. How many hundred attacks are made on Germans every day, how many rapes and rape attempts, how many sexual assaults, how many cases of armed robbery and how many terrorist attacks?

Violence is always bad but focusing on one side is equal to denying the truth. But left-fascists are closing their eyes and want to see German people suffer and die.

are you german? I can't tell, because just like the other people so very concerned about migrant criminality in germany you have hidden your profile.. why do you snowflakes need safe spaces so much? weak

I'm german, let me worry about my people.



monocle_layton said:
Yeah I'm not even gonna bother with this thread. It's gonna go downhill quick with anti-migrant vs pro-migrant arguments that will turn into insults and anecdote-driven statements.

I would however like to see statistics for migrants, natives, races, gender, age, etc. I think the information is too broad to draw a valid conclusion

This is the best I can come up with. This image is from a BKA 2014 study that shows how much each ethnicity commits a particular crime per capita. You can see that those of Tunisian, Algerian, or Pakistani nationality, for example, are at the top for most crimes such as child abuse, sexual assault, and theft. In comparison, Germans are at the bottom along with people of European and East Asian nationalities. Unfortunately, the original link leads to a '404 Not Found', so the image is all I have.

There was also a Switz study (Switzerland is one of Germany's neighbors, so I think it's a valid study to cite) that shows that a higher percentage of people from north Africa and west Africa, for example, broke the Criminal Code in comparison to those of other origins. However, the article says that there is likely not a causal relationship between ethnicity and crime, but rather gender/age and crime. The article says that young men (18-29) are far more likely to commit crime than men of other age groups and women. The previous sentence is very important because according to a German study from BAMF, the migrants are overwhelmingly male (bottom of Page 2) and young (Page 3).



WolfpackN64 said:
GribbleGrunger said:

What do people expect? Immigrants have been killing, raping and attacking Europeans for years now while the press and the governments cover it up. Go back to your fluffy little world and let the people who have to suffer this reality deal with it.

In some wel documented cases. Attacks against migrants are usually the ones being underreported.

Yes, but as will most all attacks/crimes/ect they tend to be by the same group or poeple they know.

Most white are attacked by whites.

Most blacks are attacked by blacks

Most immigrants in this case are attacked by immigrants.

So if immigrant attacks where all reported, it woudl only increase teh amount of attacks performed by immigrants.

But this topic is pointless as teh stat is presented. All it says is that 10 immigrants are attacked a day. It's a click bait topic to get people to think there is some discrimination going on, when in actuallity 90+% of those attacks are probably by the very same immigrants.



Aura7541 said:

This is the best I can come up with. This image is from a BKA 2014 study that shows how much each ethnicity commits a particular crime per capita. You can see that those of Tunisian, Algerian, or Pakistani nationality, for example, are at the top for most crimes such as child abuse, sexual assault, and theft. In comparison, Germans are at the bottom along with people of European and East Asian nationalities. Unfortunately, the original link leads to a '404 Not Found', so the image is all I have.

That image is NOT from the BKA, it's created by a third party ! Point 8 on it says "this is not an official statistic".

As you said the source for any number in there is 404, so that image can't be confirmed in any form.

I would expect more from a mod.



Lafiel said:
Aura7541 said:

This is the best I can come up with. This image is from a BKA 2014 study that shows how much each ethnicity commits a particular crime per capita. You can see that those of Tunisian, Algerian, or Pakistani nationality, for example, are at the top for most crimes such as child abuse, sexual assault, and theft. In comparison, Germans are at the bottom along with people of European and East Asian nationalities. Unfortunately, the original link leads to a '404 Not Found', so the image is all I have.

That image is NOT from the BKA, it's created by a third party ! Point 8 on it says "this is not an official statistic".

As you said the source for any number in there is 404, so that image can't be confirmed in any form.

I would expect more from a mod.

It's hard for someone who doesn't understand German.

What about Point 7? It appears to be referencing Table 62 from BKA.

Edit: I think what the 3rd party did was they took the raw data from BKA and calculated the per capita statistics themselves. The method is valid as long as they were using reputable sources and not manipulating the data, though it's hard to me to verify since... I don't understand German.