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Is Nintendo too greedy?

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the no power cord thing was just fucking stupid.
wonder how many kids got one on Christmas day then had to wait a few days to recharge the fucking thing because all the stores selling power supplies were shut for the holidays?



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niceguygameplayer said:
Dravenet7 said:

This was hilarious because some of your points grossly contradicted each other, at least two of them made no sense, and at least on of your points was so under researched, a picture destroyed it.  I'm being overly generous by saying maybe four of your points have some point to it. To summerize what I read:

[You have no intention of offending anyone with your complaints and they are poorly thought out and unresearched... but if anyone disagrees they are presumed to be an extreme diehard Nintendo fan.]

I always love the defense for making irrational comments is simply suggesting that whoever disagrees is being irrational to avoid earnest criticism.

Wow, you gave a long and detailed reply! However, I have been responding for a long time now, and it's almost 4 a.m. Your comment will be the first I respond to tomorrow. I will respond fairly and without any angry replies. I do feel that there may be unfair bias from those with Nintendo avatars and names, but I will not just assume you are one of them. No need for anger. You are completely free to disagree all you would like and counter all of my points. Have a good night. 

Did I really come off as angry? That is just the way I tend to analyze stuff and respond. I'll dial it down bit if that is the way it comes out. Rest easy.



niceguygameplayer said:
Captain_Yuri said:

For #5

I guess 5 seconds of googling is too much to ask tho...

Well, I did have doubt. I thought that was crazy, but after the not having a power cord for 3DS XL, there was that chance!

so you stated alot of "facts" without doing any research... be careful.. this is how presidents get made



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The power cord thing with N3DS was just stupid and many, MANY nintendo fans were angry over it. Nintendo does some stupid things, just like Sony last gen with the price for PS3, Microsoft this generation with price and the damn power brick. These big publishers does stupid things and if there are really stupid things, consumers usually punish them for it. But I don't see Nintendo being dumber than anyone else, just a bit more cautious with catering to everyone's needs all the time.

And I like that they aren't raving over having the beat co sole performance all the time. They understand that consoles will never ever compete in performance with PC, so better focus on being a quality cosole with good graphics, a fast interface and great games.



I think you're right about point one but I'm more sympathetic to nintendo on the other points (or flat out disagree).



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niceguygameplayer said:

2. No powerful hardware for their home consoles. Only gimmicks to excuse making cheap hardware for large cost. They struck it rich with Wii and have been doing it since. Even the GameCube had no DVDCD player, unlike PS2 and Xbox. Well, I'm not sure about Xbox with DVD's, but it could play CD's, I think. Plus Xbox was the most powerful of it's generation and had a hard drive.

It's ironic that you use the gamecube as an example, as it was more powerful (and cheaper) than the PS2 - and the DVD player was the gimmick.



What your list could have been:

1. This is the worst. No power cord for 3DS XL. Sony and Microsoft havent made any mistakes as big as this...

2. No faulty hardware for their home consoles. Consoles that are made to last and often offer new ways to enjoy gaming like motion controls, goggle free 3D or HDrumble.

3. No droughts after launch for Switch. Nintendo offers one big game for Switch launch along several smaller ones and keeps on delivering great games through out the year, thus avoiding droughts.

4. No more support for Wii U. After Zelda, I think that is it for big titles. They are focusing on Switch and wont waste any recources on the console that failed miserably. More games for the Switch and less time used developing games for the dead system, Wii U.

5. I just read on here, in another forum post, no headphone jack for Switch. I used I minute of my life to check if it was true and quess what? It was not true :)

6. No Virtual Console at launch. Great! Nintendo confirmed that Switch was also getting at least some Nes games, that means vc will come, so Switch might get games from Nes, Snes, Nintendo 64, Neo Geo, Commodore 64, Game Cube, GB, GBA, DS,3DS....

7. No Metroid announced for Switch, but hinted at many times ;)

8. No more preorders for Switch at many locations. It is a good sign that at least there is some interest and demand for the new system and now Nintendo might realize to ramp up the production etc.

9. No to making enough Nes Minis to meet demand. Good to have this before the Switch, because now Nintendo might have more faith in the Switch and be better at matching demand.

10. No price cuts for 3DS or Wii U in a long time. At least something nice for those unlucky ones that bought Wii U at launch (a large chunk of those who have one) is that Wii U kept is value. For those that made the mistake of buying 3DS at lauch, before the huge pricecut, they luckily offered some free games to keep them satisifed, although as the system was succesful and got many good games they most likely were happy anyways.

11. No Nintendo Direct for Switch, but something even better, a large scale presentation, treehouse event etc.

12. No decent price for the pro controller and maybe 1,2 Switch. However Switch itself, most of its games and its online service are very affortable.

13. No pack in game! 1, 2 Switch could have been a pack in from what I've read, but that is depending whether the game is fun or not.

14. No hard drive for Switch. blaa blaa blaa



niceguygameplayer said:

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2. No powerful hardware for their home consoles. Only gimmicks to excuse making cheap hardware for large cost. They struck it rich with Wii and have been doing it since. Even the GameCube had no DVDCD player, unlike PS2 and Xbox. Well, I'm not sure about Xbox with DVD's, but it could play CD's, I think. Plus Xbox was the most powerful of it's generation and had a hard drive.

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13. No pack in game! Next to having no power cord for 3DS XL, this is the worst. 1, 2 Switch would have been an ideal pack in from what I've read. A game to showcase what the Switch can do. No pack in game makes little sense even for Nintendo. That will bar some from even buying a Switch. Those that are poor will have little incentive to buy the switch when the $300 price tag is already high. Sony and MS offer more powerful consoles with a game at the same price. 

14. No hard drive for Switch. Want to download Dragon Quest Heroes 1 and 2. Well too bad! It is a 32 gigabyte download. The same as the switch internal memory. Of course that internal memory won't be all free. Some will be used for the system. Even if it was all free, there would not be any space to save a game. I understand it's part portable, but couldn't they have gotten it up to 128 gigs? A lot can be stored on a tiny card now. Greedy again, Nintendo. I guess you can add the possible cost for an SD card to #12... (passes out again.) 

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So basically we should complain that the Switch isn't more powerful than the PS4, can't play blu-ray discs, doesn't come with a HDD and a pack-in game, while still fitting inside your pocket (imagine the outrage it would cause if people couldn't play all their games downloaded into the HDD on the go), have the same (or better) battery life and still sustain the same operating temperature, specially in handheld mode. All that whithout increasing its price, of course, because as you've said the $300 price tag is already high.

Sounds reasonable.



mysteryman said:
niceguygameplayer said:

2. No powerful hardware for their home consoles. Only gimmicks to excuse making cheap hardware for large cost. They struck it rich with Wii and have been doing it since. Even the GameCube had no DVDCD player, unlike PS2 and Xbox. Well, I'm not sure about Xbox with DVD's, but it could play CD's, I think. Plus Xbox was the most powerful of it's generation and had a hard drive.

It's ironic that you use the gamecube as an example, as it was more powerful (and cheaper) than the PS2 - and the DVD player was the gimmick.

Except ps2 dvd is also a functional movie dvd player. 4k uhd bluray player on xbox1s is also a "gimmick", but look at how that extra function wins the battle between xbox1s and ps4 slim.



With the N64 and Gamecube I took it, I knew the console was pricy and the games and stuff, but all ea and activision and capcom games I wanted played on those consoles I liked the controllers and direction.

After the Wii- its just become a milking train, weak hardware, high prices, horrible online services that remind me of a ps2 where i cant even play with my friends.

Yeah, nintendo still makes great games like they have always but its become a company I just cannot and will not support with what they are releasing right now, sure its a decent console hybrid for a handheld price but its priced as a home console when the PS4Pro and Xbox Scorpio are going to deliver much much better experiences.

Again games like For Honor, Red Dead, Mass Effect etc etc no chance, and many of those games would have been great on the go, but its not gonna happen.

I don't know, I still love nintendo because I grew up with it and I like some of their franchises but the Wii and Wii-U burned me like no console ever before.




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