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VGPolyglot on 28 February 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

He'd probably get arrested no matter which bathroom the guy was in. The police prefer to have as much of a monopoly as they can, and only allow violence in very limited cases. If a guy beats someone else up for going into the opposite gender's bathroom, he's probably going to get in trouble.

Maybe. But I did say go to jail, rather than just get arrested. The US still uses jurors right? Jurors that may well have daughters of their own? In which case good luck convicting a guy for beating up another guy trying to enter the womens bathroom right behind a little girl.

That's if he'd be willing to go to court. The vast majority of people take a plea bargain because they have work/a family and they can't afford the time to go to a trial.



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Dark_Lord_2008 on 28 February 2017

New governments repeal and revoke decisions of the previous government they do not believe in. It is just an epic waste of tax payers money.



NewGuy on 28 February 2017
Pemalite said:
NewGuy said:

I will give you that most of the ones who go out of their way to look like the opposite sex would be able to walk in a bathroom and no one would bat an eye. 

Let me rephrase my question here, would you feel comfortable if the latter person I posted walked in the girls bathroom if your wife/sister was in there with your daughter? And you saw said person walking in? I mean that's what you are saying you are okay with.

You make it sound as if toilets are some massive crime syndicate that is full of abusers, drugs addicts and rapists... When really, everyone who goes in there just wants to take a dump.

But yes. I would be fine with it.

I make it sound like I'm uncomfortable with it, which I am. You are putting words in my mouth (typing). That's on you.

I vehemently disagree with your opinion, but respect it. To each their own.



Cubedramirez on 28 February 2017
Ka-pi96 said:

I wonder just how much time governments spend simply undoing the stuff the previous government did

That said though, this is a change I'd agree with.

Bingo.



funkateer2 on 28 February 2017
Locknuts said:
For me as a father, I don't want some grown man to be following my little girls into the toilet and people thinking it's normal. It's a pedophile's wet dream

Sure, but peadophelia has NOTHING to do with transgenderism, so you're completely off-topic here.



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TheBlackNaruto on 28 February 2017
funkateer2 said:
Locknuts said:
For me as a father, I don't want some grown man to be following my little girls into the toilet and people thinking it's normal. It's a pedophile's wet dream

Sure, but peadophelia has NOTHING to do with transgenderism, so you're completely off-topic here.

I think the point he was making is that this opens doors for them that they preciously had little to no access to. So yes the way he is viewing things that is how he feels and I can respect and see where he is coming from.  He is looking at it from the perspective of a father and there is nothing wrong with that. So no it is really not off topic.



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funkateer2 on 28 February 2017

It seems to me that some people in this thread are worried about sexual predators entering the restroom.
Maybe even child predators.

But that has nothing to do with transgenders choosing the restroom that they feel is most appropriate for them.

Sexual predators are a worry, but why even talk about them in this context? There might be a correlation between sexual violence and transgenderism, but transgenders were usually the victim there, not the perpetrators.

I have 2 daughters myself, but transgenders going into the same public restroom is not something I'd worry about.



funkateer2 on 28 February 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
funkateer2 said:

Sure, but peadophelia has NOTHING to do with transgenderism, so you're completely off-topic here.

I think the point he was making is that this opens doors for them that they preciously had little to no access to. So yes the way he is viewing things that is how he feels and I can respect and see where he is coming from.  He is looking at it from the perspective of a father and there is nothing wrong with that. So no it is really not off topic.

Ok, the guy is worried, so I guess it's not completely off topic for him.

I guess my point was (and still is) that if you worry about sexual predators and child molestors, transgenders should not be the focus of that conversation; child molestors should be. Child molestors are not the same thing transgenders, so in that sense it's off-topic to me.

I have 2 daughters myself, and transgenderism doesn't worry me one bit more than 'straight' people when it comes to the restroom.



TheBlackNaruto on 28 February 2017
funkateer2 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

I think the point he was making is that this opens doors for them that they preciously had little to no access to. So yes the way he is viewing things that is how he feels and I can respect and see where he is coming from.  He is looking at it from the perspective of a father and there is nothing wrong with that. So no it is really not off topic.

Ok, the guy is worried, so I guess it's not completely off topic for him.

I guess my point was (and still is) that if you worry about sexual predators and child molestors, transgenders should not be the focus of that conversation; child molestors should be. Child molestors are not the same thing transgenders, so in that sense it's off-topic to me.

I have 2 daughters myself, and transgenderism doesn't worry me one bit more than 'straight' people when it comes to the restroom.

Yeah I have a son and a daughter and can see where he is coming from. Andthat was the point I think that got mixed up....he never said he had a problem with transgerism. He was saying for child molesters etc this opens doors for them that could only dream about. Because it would be considered "normal" to see a grown man going into the womens restroom and no one would think twice about it. He was saying it could be exploited because of that which I can see. Not saying that transgenders are all child molesters but that child molesters could and more than likely would take advantage of the situation.

I guess that's why this is such a sticky subject because it opens up so many other doors and issues so there is a lot ot be discussed on that. Again me personally to each his/her own but I can understand and respect the issues from both sides even if I don't agree with all of them.



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naruball on 28 February 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
funkateer2 said:

Ok, the guy is worried, so I guess it's not completely off topic for him.

I guess my point was (and still is) that if you worry about sexual predators and child molestors, transgenders should not be the focus of that conversation; child molestors should be. Child molestors are not the same thing transgenders, so in that sense it's off-topic to me.

I have 2 daughters myself, and transgenderism doesn't worry me one bit more than 'straight' people when it comes to the restroom.

Yeah I have a son and a daughter and can see where he is coming from. Andthat was the point I think that got mixed up....he never said he had a problem with transgerism. He was saying for child molesters etc this opens doors for them that could only dream about. Because it would be considered "normal" to see a grown man going into the womens restroom and no one would think twice about it. He was saying it could be exploited because of that which I can see. Not saying that transgenders are all child molesters but that child molesters could and more than likely would take advantage of the situation.

I guess that's why this is such a sticky subject because it opens up so many other doors and issues so there is a lot ot be discussed on that. Again me personally to each his/her own but I can understand and respect the issues from both sides even if I don't agree with all of them.

Do people not realize that a lot of pedophiles like young boys? How exactly is it any different?