Who is saying Scorpio will have an 8 core Ryzen? I'm only illustrating the point a $300 chip can be put in a system thats $400.

In case you aren't aware, economies of scale is a real thing.

Considering the release timing, Scorpio silicon could likely use a pair of Raven Ridge quads. Raven Ridge APU family will use Ryzen/Zen cores.

So no, we are not talking a Ryzen 7 CPU, but a lower powered notebook-like configuration is not out of the question. Two 1.8-2.5Ghz Quad core blocks for instance. An no it has nothing to do with comparing the desktop CPU transistor count, because in these custom SoC solutions a lot is trimmed out and configured differently 

Even if MS were to use Bristol Ridge cpu cores (unlikely as its part of a 28nm process), that Excavator solution is 100% faster than Carrizio (comparable/more efficient than Kaveri(Ps4) in gaming. In any event there is a large improvement delta over whats found on XBO.

PS4 is using Kabini (aka Jaguar), not Kaveri. But yeah, a 2 Module Bristol Ridge would likely outperform an 8Core Kabini due to higher IPC and clock speed. However, I don't think Scorpio will switch to the Module design, since they're basically End OF Life and have low Floating point calculation speed, which is critical for games. Also, the shared ressources of the modules  might be complicated to exploit properly for a console.

A simplified Zen without the L3 cache, SMT and the integrated Southbridge would be much smaller than the ones in the RyZen cores, down to maybe a quarter of the size of the PC CPU. Performance would take a hit without that cache of course, but it would still be WAY better than the old Jaguars in XBO and PS4 (Pro), even if clocked down to about 2Ghz (2.5Ghz would be probably doable in that szenario without consuming too much power). Replace all that lost space with a (Vega) GPU part and you would get a pretty good chip for a powerful console.

Ryzen is looking great. Two Core2Quad Intel rigs at home that need replacing and back to AMD they will be going. Athlon 64 was my first build ever, and a great one at that. ATI Radeon 9800. Great memories.
I think Ryzen has more to offer than what we see now. AMD needed to show they could go toe to toe with Intel again, and do it for cheaper, and they've done just that. They would be making a huge mistake if they've pushed Ryzen to hard this early, leaving the door open for Intel to slowly creep away with better and better results. For the next couple of years anyway, things should be interesting in the x86 CPU industry.

As for Scorpio, AMD did mention that Ryzen mobile is on track for the second half of 2017. If Scorpio is going to have a Ryzen based APU, its going to be a semi custom mobile version. Whether it ends up Ryzen or not is highly debatable. There are so many possibilities depending on which direction XB goes, that we just can't know until they tell us, or it leaks.

I'm illustrating the point that a $300 CPU can not be put into a system that's $400. Because you need more than just a CPU.

Incase you aren't aware, economies of scale isn't a magic solution to getting everything below cost.

No you're not illustrating any point, you're making pointless replies to me. What the hall are you even arguing about? No one said Scorpio will have 8 core cpu, why did you even reply to me?

And you're wrong. Just like Sony got a ~$300 GPU in a $400 system, so can MS do it with a CPU.

The RX 480 was $229 when it released. Not to mention the Pro GPU has a lower clock and thus could afford a looser binning.

Besides, MS would have to get both a $300 GPU and a $300 CPU, remember?

I'm just saying it's technically possible to fit a $300 component into a box of $400. RX480 launched at higher than 300 euros here and is still around that price. My believe is that it's far more likely to get Ryzen 5.

The RX480 was actually $199 at launch, and the PS4 Pro uses a solution less powerful than an RX470.

Ps4 Pro is 30% short of an RX480's performance.

This thread is about 8-core Ryzen processors. You replied in response to Dave who... (And I quote)

And this is a thread, people do tend to reply to other people.

Remember, by having a $300 CPU in a system, that leaves you with $100 for the GPU, Ram, Hard Drive, Optical Drive, Networking, Controllers, Case, Power Supply, Packaging, Motherboard, Chipset and other components in a $400 box.

It's never going to happen. Ever. Period.

The part you don't seem to understand is that by having a $300 GPU, you cannot have a $300 CPU and still hit the $400 price point.

Ryzen 5 is also not going to happen.
Ryzen 5 is the 6-core chips. Microsoft have already advertised the fact that Scorpio will h ave 8-cores.