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2018:You want new switch-hardware with better accu/graphic?

Yes, 100 % !!!!!!!!! 84 38.18%
 
Yes, please *-* 35 15.91%
 
No.. 39 17.73%
 
No, because no money. 21 9.55%
 
No interest/not enough games 19 8.64%
 
see results 22 10.00%
 
Total:220

When it happens the original will be cheaper! So no.
It's already a powerful if people view it as a handheld.



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JRPGfan said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Is 2.5 hours to 6.5 hours, why are some people always trying to make it look worse than it is? That's a way better battery than the one on my 700$ laptop lol

Because when asked how long Zelda runs portable, they said about 3hours.

The avg normal demanding game, like zelda, will not run 6hours. Some will run less than 3hours.

Only very little demanding indie games will run 6hours.

Don't you even realize Zelda is an open world game and by far the most demanding game Nintendo has ever done? Open world games drain the battery, try to play one in a laptop, even with Skyrim it starts to gets hot and noisy pretty quick and you will be lucky to play it for more than 2 hours, the average game is definitively NOT Zelda, any other Nintendo game releasing this year is probably way less intensive draining battery in the same conditions. They clearly said 2.5h to 6.5h, yet you go around saying Switch battery is 2.5h to 3h which is a straight lie.

And I insist, this battery is better than the battery in most laptops and mobiles, 2 extremelly succesful products.



Goodnightmoon said:
JRPGfan said:

Because when asked how long Zelda runs portable, they said about 3hours.

The avg normal demanding game, like zelda, will not run 6hours. Some will run less than 3hours.

Only very little demanding indie games will run 6hours.

Don't you even realize Zelda is an open world game and by far the most demanding game Nintendo has ever done? Open world games drain the battery, try to play one in a laptop, even with Skyrim it starts to gets hot and noisy pretty quick and you will be lucky to play it for more than 2 hours, the average game is definitively NOT Zelda, any other Nintendo game releasing this year is probably way less intensive draining battery in the same conditions. They clearly said 2.5h to 6.5h, yet you go around saying Switch battery is 2.5h to 3h which is a straight lie.

And I insist, this battery is better than the battery in most laptops and mobiles, 2 extremelly succesful products.

Its not just Zelda, Mario & Arms will probably also be around the 3hour mark.

Most non indie games will be around that imo, so no its not that zelda is more demanding than most games for the switch.

Thats just what most normal games on the switch will run for (I expect it to be that way, maybe Im being to pessimistic).



I probably would given that I bought a New 3DS while owning an original 3DS. If the supposed "new" Switch was $300 and GameStop would give me $150 for my old Switch, I say why not?

That being said, I don't really see a reason for it. Both the graphics and the battery life are fine IMO.



Regarding a more powerful Switch, you first have to consider : how much bigger they'd go, would it be ideal in handheld mode, and not betray the Switch's design concept?  Looking at the 3  modes, 2 are portable, and IMO most optimized play options:

Switch OG  

1. portable

2.dock

3. tabletop (6.2in is a bit too small)

 

So my first guess -  a larger NS would be geared toward tabletop mode instead, & include a pro controller (instead of joycons+grip). 

Switch XL (10 in.?)

1. tabletop  

2. dock

3. portable - too big but not impossible

 

I definitely believe there's a market for a premium option. Might see a switch mini also,  but starting to have doubts about a dock only solution, since the "Switch" concept has switching to docked mode as the secondary option by (its tech) design.



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JRPGfan said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Don't you even realize Zelda is an open world game and by far the most demanding game Nintendo has ever done? Open world games drain the battery, try to play one in a laptop, even with Skyrim it starts to gets hot and noisy pretty quick and you will be lucky to play it for more than 2 hours, the average game is definitively NOT Zelda, any other Nintendo game releasing this year is probably way less intensive draining battery in the same conditions. They clearly said 2.5h to 6.5h, yet you go around saying Switch battery is 2.5h to 3h which is a straight lie.

And I insist, this battery is better than the battery in most laptops and mobiles, 2 extremelly succesful products.

Its not just Zelda, Mario & Arms will probably also be around the 3hour mark.

Most non indie games will be around that imo, so no its not that zelda is more demanding than most games for the switch.

Thats just what most normal games on the switch will run for (I expect it to be that way, maybe Im being to pessimistic).

They probably don't, open world games tend to drain the battery way faster, I tell you this by experience. You keep insisting that only indie games will last more than 3 hours but we really have no proof of that at all, the only data we have is 2.5h-6.5h



Not likely because the price would be set a lot higher than it already is, that and it would absolutely kill what little battery life it has anyway.

I'd rather they just improve the battery and charge less for the gamepad and allow for a lan cable with the dock. Also a bigger SD card would be nice.



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if you've seen the guts of the system, literally Nintendo has put in the largest and best battery they possibly could have. There is no more space. Unless you're suggesting doing a much larger form factor for the device, but people already complain that its a tad bit too big too put in their pockets and carry around (need a little bag/cover).

As for the power- a lot of you are vastly underestimating the power of the Switch. for a portable it is extremely powerful. There are very few portable devices on the market, tablets or otherwise, that are capable of running the sort of software the Switch will be without overheating into mush. 

also, realistically, if you're hoping for a 'deluxe' Switch version with specs closer to like the PS4, that would be astronomically insane for a handheld. It doesn't currently exist. Even if they did create it it probably would end up over a 600$ price point. Bear in mind you are extremely limited in space internally for a tablet this size (the Switch is essentially a smaller range tablet) and that the more powerful the device the harder to keep it cool and the more difficulty in maintaining battery life

 

my problem with this thread is it suggests that its an easy "Oh, if there was a better Switch would you buy it?" when anyone who has seen the leaks of the guts of the system OR read up on it much at all should be aware that in terms of the battle between SPECS + battery + space under the hood, they did virtually the best they could for a 300$ price point

Bear in mind that the name brand tablets that come out at like 500$ are considerably weaker hardware wise than the Switch (although obviously in turn they focus on web browsing / office apps rather than demanding programs)

The only way to accomplish the OP's suggestion/question is to either make the Switch considerably larger (killing its portability), and/OR raising the price to most probably over double (if the suggestion is to somehow get its specs more competitive with the current model systems)

In the end threads like this are illogical because they seem to undermine what the Switch is- its a hybrid with quite impressive specs for something you can carry around with you. It already is fairly aggressive in terms of visuals, far beyond the Vita (the closest comparison), and a giant leap past the 3DS (possibly the biggest leap between any handheld generation).

The concept that Nintendo could just easily bring out a deluxe version with a better battery and specs is completely illogical because the system would have to be both much larger would end up astronomically more expensive

if a company could come out with a PS4 level handheld gaming device in the 300 or 400$ price range they would have done it. Its just not feasible, too much heat and not not enough space for a portable.

Maybe in a few years

I see a lot of these illogical posts that seem to act oblivious to the limitations that a handheld device has. There is no "Lets make it a PS4 level handheld!". if the PS4 was 400$ at launch, then what do you think a handheld 5x smaller with PS4 level specs would cost at launch? use your brains please



KazumaKiryu said:

Some examples like Dragon Quest Heroes show on Switch less details and worse graphics than on PS4. DQH looks like on PS3. Especially the big games (Final Fantasy 15, next GTA & Mass Effect & Battlefield ect) are actually not possible on Switch. That's why: I'm sure, 2018 a stronger switch-hardware(upgrade) with better battery and better graphics appears. A new version of Nintendo.

thats why i asking - Very simple question: Would you buy a stronger switch-hardware with better battery and graphics?
I'm looking forward to the result. I personally find it sad that the switch is hardly stronger than the old PS3. Do you want 2018 a better switch version? Then the hardware is future proof for developers. That is my opinion.


2018??? Yeah right, too soon for that, maybe 2019.




Fededx said:
Yes I would, actually I'm not buying one more because of that. Graphicwise it's fine, the battery life is simply awful, and you can't change it...

if you've looked at the leaked guts of the system (all over Neo GAF recently from some Asian soure) then you'd have seen that the battery takes up a massive amount of the space internally for the Switch. They literally squeezed in the biggest possible battery unless you were to raise the overall size of the system (which would be a no go, since its already pushing the limits on size for a hybrid handheld)

Also nobody has experienced the battery. The concept that 3 hours for a Skyrim like game on a handheld would be 'bad' is just ridiculous, its not bad at all

also, generally a company is going to be kind of conservative with guesstimates to be safe. For all we know Zelda might last 4 hours, it may depend. Also, as others have mentioned, the majority of games aren't going to be Skyrim sized. If Zelda lasts 3 hours in handheld battery mode then the average game will probably last like 5

at any rate, again, the internals for the Switch were leaked and the battery takes up like over half of the internal space. Nintendo did what they could, the sad reality is that a handheld (partial) system with aggressive specs is not going to be able to be powered for THAT long on-the-go with basically any battery