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NintendoPie on 22 February 2017
Boutros said:

First shipment doesn't matter in this case. FFXIII was discounted to the same price just as fast as FFXV even if it wasn't overshipped. FFXV isn't seeing historical price cuts here. It's the same as FFXIII. Also I think used copies are selling at a higher price than FFXIII's.

FFXV is simply having better legs than FFXIII (not saying great legs simply better legs than FFXIII which people didn't mind profusely comparing it to for first week numbers). I wish people who made all those FFXIII comparison in FFXV's first week would at least now acknowledge the better legs. It comes across as double standards not to.

Double standards? On VGC? How dare you proclaim such an idea.



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Boutros on 22 February 2017
NintendoPie said:
Boutros said:

First shipment doesn't matter in this case. FFXIII was discounted to the same price just as fast as FFXV even if it wasn't overshipped. FFXV isn't seeing historical price cuts here. It's the same as FFXIII. Also I think used copies are selling at a higher price than FFXIII's.

FFXV is simply having better legs than FFXIII (not saying great legs simply better legs than FFXIII which people didn't mind profusely comparing it to for first week numbers). I wish people who made all those FFXIII comparison in FFXV's first week would at least now acknowledge the better legs. It comes across as double standards not to.

Double standards? On VGC? How dare you proclaim such an idea.

I would even go as far as saying that NeoGAF is worse!

 

BraLoD said:
Boutros said:
FFXV doing pretty awesome!
People didn't mind comparing its first week to FFXIII but suddenly that doesn't apply to its legs.
By now FFXIII had the same kind of price drop and was already sub 1.5k.

GTAV is already outselling it tho... in Japan...

Well yeah because GTAV has actual great legs lol



Kerotan on 22 February 2017

January digital estimates are out an as expected dominated by Playstation!



Boutros on 22 February 2017

Famitsu Digital Estimates for January (26 Dec - 29 Jan)
Biohazard 7 - 26,088
Gravity Daze 2 - 18,821
Kingdom Hearts - 16,562
Sun Moon 7,774
Momotaro Dentestu 4,486

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Digital ratio:
Biohazard 7 - 10%
Gravity Daze 2 - 18%
Kingdom Hearts - 9%



Platina on 22 February 2017

Just a few more weeks till Mario Maker 3DS hits 1M

PS4 still going strong!



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Boutros on 22 February 2017
Famitsu Digital Estimates (Dec 26, 2016 - Jan 29, 2017) 
01. [PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard: 26.088 / 26.088 (Capcom) - {26/01/2017}
02. [PS4] Gravity Rush 2: 18.821 / 18.821 (SIE) - {19/01/2017}
03. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue: 16.562 / 16.562 (Square Enix) - {12/01/2016}
04. [PS4] Battlefield 1: 14.151 / 78.864 (Electronic Arts) - {18/10/2016}
05. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition: 14.067 / 253.013 (SCE) - {25/12/2014}*
06. [PSV] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony: 10.167 / 10.167 (Spike Chunsoft) - {12/01/2016}
07. [PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony: 9.243 / 9.243 (Spike Chunsoft) - {12/01/2016}
08. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon: 7.774 / 84.669 (Pokémon Co.) - {18/11/2016}
09. [PS4] Valkyria Revolution: 6.925 / 6.925 (SEGA) - {19/01/2017}
10. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!!: 4.486 / 11.662 (Nintendo) - {22/12/2016}
11. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V: 4.315 / 19.107 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) - {11/12/2014}*
12. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life: 3.872 / 24.677 (SEGA) - {08/12/2016}
13. [3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World: 3.837 / 3.837 (Nintendo) - {19/01/2017}
14. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV: 3.087 / 91.640 (Square Enix) - {29/11/2016}
15. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition: 3.039 / 355.272 (SCE) - {23/06/2014}
16. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition: 3.994 / 181.193 (Microsoft) - {17/12/2015}*
17. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS: 2.986 / 15.092 (Nintendo) - {08/12/2016}
18. [PS4] Watch Dogs 2: 2.939 / 13.376 (Ubisoft) - {01/12/2016}
19. [PSV] Valkyria Revolution: 2.078 / 2.078 (SEGA) - {19/01/2017}
20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo: 1.892 / 7.186 (Nintendo) - {23/11/2016}
21. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki: 1.579 / 6.897 (Level 5) - {15/12/2016}
22. [3DS] Miitopia: 1.450 / 5.338 (Nintendo) - {01/12/2016}
23. [3DS] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Heroes: 1.080 / 3.465 (Konami) - {15/12/2016}
24. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter: 673 / 9.525 (Gung Ho) - {28/07/2016}*
25. [3DS] Mario Kart 7: 622 / 6.453 (Nintendo) - {01/12/2011}*
26. [3DS] Mario Party: Star Rush: 526 / 4.794 (Nintendo) - {20/10/2016}
27. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot: 517 / 21.642 (Nintendo) - {28/04/2016}
28. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2: 502 / 4.514 (Nintendo) - {28/07/2012}*
29. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura: 319 / 26.413 (Level 5) - {16/07/2016}
30. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu: 258 / 1.231 (Nippon Columbia) - {21/07/2016}

*LTD is incomplete month(s) of data may be missing
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tbone51 on 22 February 2017

So switch going outsell ps4+3ds combine this year? Anyone else with that thought :o



Acevil on 22 February 2017
Boutros said:
hiska-kun said:

FFXIII shipped 1.789k at launch and sold through the first shipment by week 3. FFXV still has more than 100k copies on shelves. The amount of unsold copies of FFXIII never was as big as XV

[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII # (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} (¥8.800) - 1.501.964 / NEW <83,96%> [Units shipped => 1.788.904] 

[PS4] Final Fantasy XV # (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 690.471 / NEW <64,63%> [Units shipped => 1.068.344] 

When a game is discounted we can't talk about legs, but retailers doing its job. 

First shipment doesn't matter in this case. FFXIII was discounted to the same price just as fast as FFXV even if it wasn't overshipped. FFXV isn't seeing historical price cuts here. It's the same as FFXIII. Also I think used copies are selling at a higher price than FFXIII's.

FFXV is simply having better legs than FFXIII (not saying great legs simply better legs than FFXIII which people didn't mind profusely comparing it to for first week numbers). I wish people who made all those FFXIII comparison in FFXV's first week would at least now acknowledge the better legs. It comes across as double standards not to.

Or just maybe the comparisons aren't made when something has huge decline and is just crawling to reach even 70% of the week 1 (Originally wrote day 1, but I don't remember day 1, and I meant week 1) sales of the previous big entry. 

Usually when people go about legs is when an entry is some how going to match or outpace or is a new ip or it is on the chart forever. 



 

Kerotan on 22 February 2017
Boutros said:
Famitsu Digital Estimates (Dec 26, 2016 - Jan 29, 2017) 
01. [PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard: 26.088 / 26.088 (Capcom) - {26/01/2017}
02. [PS4] Gravity Rush 2: 18.821 / 18.821 (SIE) - {19/01/2017}
03. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue: 16.562 / 16.562 (Square Enix) - {12/01/2016}
04. [PS4] Battlefield 1: 14.151 / 78.864 (Electronic Arts) - {18/10/2016}
05. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition: 14.067 / 253.013 (SCE) - {25/12/2014}*
06. [PSV] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony: 10.167 / 10.167 (Spike Chunsoft) - {12/01/2016}
07. [PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony: 9.243 / 9.243 (Spike Chunsoft) - {12/01/2016}
08. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon: 7.774 / 84.669 (Pokémon Co.) - {18/11/2016}
09. [PS4] Valkyria Revolution: 6.925 / 6.925 (SEGA) - {19/01/2017}
10. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!!: 4.486 / 11.662 (Nintendo) - {22/12/2016}
11. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V: 4.315 / 19.107 (Take-Two Interactive Japan) - {11/12/2014}*
12. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life: 3.872 / 24.677 (SEGA) - {08/12/2016}
13. [3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World: 3.837 / 3.837 (Nintendo) - {19/01/2017}
14. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV: 3.087 / 91.640 (Square Enix) - {29/11/2016}
15. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition: 3.039 / 355.272 (SCE) - {23/06/2014}
16. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition: 3.994 / 181.193 (Microsoft) - {17/12/2015}*
17. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS: 2.986 / 15.092 (Nintendo) - {08/12/2016}
18. [PS4] Watch Dogs 2: 2.939 / 13.376 (Ubisoft) - {01/12/2016}
19. [PSV] Valkyria Revolution: 2.078 / 2.078 (SEGA) - {19/01/2017}
20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo: 1.892 / 7.186 (Nintendo) - {23/11/2016}
21. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki: 1.579 / 6.897 (Level 5) - {15/12/2016}
22. [3DS] Miitopia: 1.450 / 5.338 (Nintendo) - {01/12/2016}
23. [3DS] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Heroes: 1.080 / 3.465 (Konami) - {15/12/2016}
24. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter: 673 / 9.525 (Gung Ho) - {28/07/2016}*
25. [3DS] Mario Kart 7: 622 / 6.453 (Nintendo) - {01/12/2011}*
26. [3DS] Mario Party: Star Rush: 526 / 4.794 (Nintendo) - {20/10/2016}
27. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot: 517 / 21.642 (Nintendo) - {28/04/2016}
28. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2: 502 / 4.514 (Nintendo) - {28/07/2012}*
29. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura: 319 / 26.413 (Level 5) - {16/07/2016}
30. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu: 258 / 1.231 (Nippon Columbia) - {21/07/2016}

*LTD is incomplete month(s) of data may be missing
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As expected the digital chart is dominated by Playstation.  Digital sales are the most profitable for publisher and platform holder alike.  No costs given to a middle man.  

 

Sony will be happy and publishers definitely are too. 



Farsala on 22 February 2017
Boutros said:
hiska-kun said:

FFXIII shipped 1.789k at launch and sold through the first shipment by week 3. FFXV still has more than 100k copies on shelves. The amount of unsold copies of FFXIII never was as big as XV

[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII # (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} (¥8.800) - 1.501.964 / NEW <83,96%> [Units shipped => 1.788.904] 

[PS4] Final Fantasy XV # (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 690.471 / NEW <64,63%> [Units shipped => 1.068.344] 

When a game is discounted we can't talk about legs, but retailers doing its job. 

First shipment doesn't matter in this case. FFXIII was discounted to the same price just as fast as FFXV even if it wasn't overshipped. FFXV isn't seeing historical price cuts here. It's the same as FFXIII. Also I think used copies are selling at a higher price than FFXIII's.

FFXV is simply having better legs than FFXIII (not saying great legs simply better legs than FFXIII which people didn't mind profusely comparing it to for first week numbers). I wish people who made all those FFXIII comparison in FFXV's first week would at least now acknowledge the better legs. It comes across as double standards not to.

Which is without mentioning the fact that digital sales cut off physical sales. (ie: legs) FFXV doing much better then FFXIII in legs.

 

 

Is this the first week in awhile PS3> Wii U? Poor thing.