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Yeah, I have to agree with puppyroach here. This was a couple dozen people in one suburb of one city.

People are being more than a little sensationalist.



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Faelco said:

Let's wait a few days, we'll find out that Trump was so angry after the "but nothing happened in Sweden" buzz that he asked a few CIA agents to start something there.

He's always right. If he isn't, it's just that he isn't yet :D

He's a time traveler, he just doesn't know it.



Its a isolated incident but I doubt such things used to happen in the past in Sweden.



irstupid said:
Goatseye said:

Can you provide a chart that links the spike in violence to migrants?

What are you talking about. Did you not get my point. Here let me state it as simple as I can.

1. FoxNews comes out with a story saying crime is rising in Sweeden due to immigration (Could be true, could be BS. Doesn't matter)

2. Trump see said report and during his speech in Florida brings it up.

3. Media and Sweedes get pissed and start kicking and screaming about Trump with hundreds of articles bashing Trump

4. Next day some cops go to arrest an immigrant and riots break out

5. It now looks like Trump was speaking truth and a bunch of articles out now about that

Let's say FoxNews report was completely a lie. This rioting happening the day after Trumps speech basically make that fact irrelivent. Now the only thing that matters in peopels minds are that Trump said Sweeden is rife with immigrant problems and these riots prove it.

1- So you don't care about the veracity of news as long as it aligns with your notion of truth, right?

2- A leader of a nation like the US isn't supposed bring up stuff up like a video game forum dweller does and thinks there'll be no consequence. And you should expect better from someone in that position.

3- Who wouldn't get pissed off when someone makes up stuff about them? It's human nature, I'm sensing political correctness here.

4- Are you sure that's what happened? Can you provide a link to your story?

5- How can Trump be speaking truth if he doesn't even fact check his source? He was sh*t slinging to the wall to see what sticks. Like : Bowling Green, Electoral College votes, The crowd size of his inauguration, Lies about his staff colluding with Russians, etc...

If you side with Fox News on their claim that rise in crime is linked to migration in "Sweeden", post that chart to back you and Fox news. Still waiting...



LadyJasmine said:
Its a isolated incident but I doubt such things used to happen in the past in Sweden.

They didn't but they're common now, in certain areas.

I live in a "safe" area, but I also live fairly close to the area in question, Rinkeby, and have friends who live there also. I don't take my car there if I visit them because I'm concerned it'll get lit on fire. It's not uncommon atm.



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LadyJasmine said:
Its a isolated incident but I doubt such things used to happen in the past in Sweden.



LadyJasmine said:
Its a isolated incident but I doubt such things used to happen in the past in Sweden.

There were riots in the same suburb in 2010. Don't know about before then, but that was before the current crop of refugees as far as I'm aware.



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VGPolyglot said:
LadyJasmine said:
Its a isolated incident but I doubt such things used to happen in the past in Sweden.

Which makes  sense when Sweden diverged from Norway and Denmark and Finland on basing policy on feelings then logic and as a result suffer many more problems. 



Goatseye said:
irstupid said:

What are you talking about. Did you not get my point. Here let me state it as simple as I can.

1. FoxNews comes out with a story saying crime is rising in Sweeden due to immigration (Could be true, could be BS. Doesn't matter)

2. Trump see said report and during his speech in Florida brings it up.

3. Media and Sweedes get pissed and start kicking and screaming about Trump with hundreds of articles bashing Trump

4. Next day some cops go to arrest an immigrant and riots break out

5. It now looks like Trump was speaking truth and a bunch of articles out now about that

Let's say FoxNews report was completely a lie. This rioting happening the day after Trumps speech basically make that fact irrelivent. Now the only thing that matters in peopels minds are that Trump said Sweeden is rife with immigrant problems and these riots prove it.

1- So you don't care about the veracity of news as long as it aligns with your notion of truth, right?

2- A leader of a nation like the US isn't supposed bring up stuff up like a video game forum dweller does and thinks there'll be no consequence. And you should expect better from someone in that position.

3- Who wouldn't get pissed off when someone makes up stuff about them? It's human nature, I'm sensing political correctness here.

4- Are you sure that's what happened? Can you provide a link to your story?

5- How can Trump be speaking truth if he doesn't even fact check his source? He was sh*t slinging to the wall to see what sticks. Like : Bowling Green, Electoral College votes, The crowd size of his inauguration, Lies about his staff colluding with Russians, etc...

If you side with Fox News on their claim that rise in crime is linked to migration in "Sweeden", post that chart to back you and Fox news. Still waiting...

It's so obvious that crime in Sweden is linked to migration. The overrepresentation of foreigners commiting violence compared wwith ethnic Swedes is overwhelming. When it comes to rape, assault and murder it's a factor of 5-10. Yes, people with foreign background are 5-10 more likely than ethnic Swedes to commit the most serious forms of crimes, and yet the population has been brainwashed to believe its about equal.

The data is hard to find though because our state is covering it up (no official data since 2005 in order to hide it).

I'm more interested in what your conclusion would be if it became clear to you that crime (in Sweden) is heavily caused by immigration. What would be your analysis?

Would it be the socialist analysis akin to "well that has to mean that marginalization and discrimination against immigrants is even larger than we thought! These people are victims!".



VGPolyglot said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Oh my good God. These riots are taking place because the government are covering it up, the media aren't reporting it clearly and the populous are still in denial. They're running amock just because they can. Wake up.

Sure, like people in a foreign country, where they could risk being deported, would just riot for the fun of it.

Yes, migrants/refugees can be assholes, too. You realize Sweden provides a shit ton of support for these people, right? And many Swedish people refuse to even think about the migrant problem, increasing rape, assault, and murder cases, giving them the benefit of doubt. Most are just good people. Definitely naive, but good intentioned. But, when you import a ton of people without proper vetting, this is what happens. 

@OP

Really interesting. Just today I was listening to a radio program where they had a guy on who made a documentary about this. He actually got his ass beat up just for filming in a "no go zone." He had interviewed many people in Sweden who were basically just ignoring the problem, saying it was racist to even suggest there may even be a problem. It also focused on how the government in Sweden was just ignoring it, as well.

Even if Trump misspoke about when the previous attacks have happened, maybe at least now people will focus on the problem.