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Donald Trump’s comments about Sweden during his rally in Melbourne, Florida, spawned headlines in newspapers all around the world. The American president later clarified on Twitter, saying that he was referring to a segment on Fox News about a film by filmmaker Ami Horowitz. But the policemen who were portrayed in the segment say that they were misrepresented by Horowitz: ”He is a madman.”

”We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.”

Trumps comments about Sweden during his rally in Melbourne, Florida, raised many questions, especially among Swedes who were quick to point out that nothing terror-related had happened in the country. The president later took to Twitter to clarify his statements, saying that he was referring to a segment on ”Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News. The segment featured the xenophobic filmmaker Ami Horowitz, maker of an alarmistic movie about Sweden. The movie, titled ”Stockholm Syndrome”, blames immigration as a direct cause of violence and rioting.

Two Swedish police officers were interviewed in the film. Anders Göranzon and Jacob Ekström answered questions about how weapons are becoming more accessible. Horowitz also asked the officers about how crime has spread through cities. But the police officers now say that their answers were taken out of context, and are very critical of how their comments were portrayed on Fox News ”Tucker Carlson Tonight”. ”I don’t understand why we are a part of the segment. The interview was about something completely different to what Fox News and Horowitz were talking about”, says Anders Göranzon.

Why were you interviewed?

”It was supposed to be about crime in high risk areas. Areas with high crime rates. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration”.

 

How did you react to the news segment?

”We don’t stand behind it. It shocked us. He has edited the answers. We were answering completely different questions in the interview. This is bad journalism.”

Anders Göranzon continues: ”It feels like hell. The real questions should be shown along with our answers. We don’t own the rights to the film, but the end result is that we don’t want to talk to journalists after this. We can’t trust each other.”

 

Have you done anything to stop the news segment?

”We just saw it. What can we do? One thing is talking to you. The excerpt they showed doesn’t say anything, we answered a different question. We don’t stand behind what he says. He is a madman.”

DN has tried to reach Mr. Ami Horowitz for a comment. On Sunday he published a statement on Facebook in regard to the reception of his report from Sweden: ”I think every media outlet across the globe covering my interview with Tucker Carlson and attacking the President is missing the point. Sweden is under assault because of the open door policy to Islamic immigration”.

http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured-in-fox-news-segment-filmmaker-is-a-madman/

Look up who is Ami Howitz people. 



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Many people will point out that Trump didn't mention a specific event, which is true, but the fact of the matter is that he is still trying to paint Sweden as a disaster due to its immigration policy, without taking into account the nuances like the fact that rape/sexual assault is counted differently than other countries, and that due to that it was already higher even before the current migrant crisis. Also, Sweden has some of the best music there is, with bands like Entombed, Dismember, Unleashed, Grave, Carnage, Opeth, Edge of Sanity, At the Gates, In Flames, Dark Tranquility, Bathory, Candlemass, Dissection, Katatonia, Marduk, Shining, Meshuggah, there's just so many good bands!! But I guess that I'm rambling on here. Yes, Sweden (like every country) has its problems, but at least be honest and accurate about it if you're going do say something when millions of people are watching.



Hiku said:

#Lastnightinsweden



Friday night a burning paper note was found on the ground in the city of Nässjö. That's probably what he was refering to.

Goatseye said:

Look up who is Ami Howitz people. 

Also look up how many errors were in that Fox News report: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/g26Lk

The point however isn't that bad things are happening somewhere in the world.
It's that the president is utterly confused and doesn't fact check before he makes false claims that confuses even more people.

Let's hope he doesn't watch a documentary of World War 2 and thinks it happens last night and nukes Germany.

Fact checking? That's a weird way of saying Fake News!



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Donald Trump is right about the refugee disaster in Sweden but PC people are too angry to face the statistics LOL ...



fatslob-:O said:
Donald Trump is right about the refugee disaster in Sweden but PC people are too angry to face the statistics LOL ...

Which statistics?



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The president shouldnt get caught saying "made up" stuff or lying as often as he does.

He shouldnt have misunderstood news and repeated something wrong either.

Trust in president trump cant be very high at this point.



fatslob-:O said:
Donald Trump is right about the refugee disaster in Sweden but PC people are too angry to face the statistics LOL ...

I don't know much about Swedish migrant policies and its outcome, please provide some articles and numbers to promote some healthy argument here about this case.



you guys got it all wrong, president Bannon's sock puppet was talking about Sweeden



Hiku said:
VGPolyglot said:

Which statistics?

Goatseye said:

I don't know much about Swedish migrant policies and its outcome, please provide some articles and numbers to promote some healthy argument here about this case.

Inb4 he mentions "rape capital" without mentioning that this has everything to do with Sweden's reformed rape laws.
Over a decade ago Sweden introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

"Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape"

Thanks. 



Hiku said:
VGPolyglot said:

Which statistics?

Goatseye said:

I don't know much about Swedish migrant policies and its outcome, please provide some articles and numbers to promote some healthy argument here about this case.

Inb4 he mentions "rape capital" without mentioning that this has everything to do with Sweden's reformed rape laws.
Over a decade ago Sweden introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

"Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape"

Yeah, that's what I alluded to in my first post. It's impossible to just compare the numbers of each other, I'm not sure if that's what fatslob ws going to try and pull off or not.