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Is "Fake News" a legitimate concept?

Yes 43 61.43%
 
No 22 31.43%
 
Not sure 5 7.14%
 
Total:70

Your president is a dumbass. And I pray he doesn't inspire more dumbasses to follow his example. The world is going to be fucked in Four years if YOU people don't do something about this.



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Safiir said:
GribbleGrunger said:

You're always on point.

And yet the swedish embassy asked the state department for clarification on what Trump meant. I guess they've been watching too much liberal media and/or are too dumb to figure out what is obvious for Trump supporters, right?

Yes, in fact the reason why almost none here in Sweden did understand it is because they're nearly all living in a bubble isolated from reality, and so affected by the absolutely surreal image of Trump that is portrayed in our media (I promise it's much more extreme than in the US. All the papers write about is Trump Trump Trump, "Trump's speech shows he is losing his grip", "Trump is mentally ill says expert", "This scandal will destroy Trump", "Trump's team is in chaos", "Trump will be kicked from office soon"). I've never seen a public figure get so much hate in Swedish media as Donald Trump. People are obsessed.

It's hard to explain, but it's a Swedish thing. It's a psychological thing that has to do with the self image Swedes have. Swedes assume everyone else thinks the same, that we're right on everything, the rest of the world is wrong. So if a Swede has a particular train of thought, that must be the right train of though. It's a collective illness. So they all went and assumed that Trump is so fucking stupid that he was referring to a non-event in Sweden the night before.



LivingMetal said:
naruball said:
We had tons of articles with trivial information about Obama since 2008. My conservative friends posted them on fb every single day. Some times even several. Yet people started using the term "fake news" only after Trump did.

Coincidence? I think not.

I agree.  It's not a coincedence.  Trump started using "Fake News" after Obama did.

And when did most people?



naruball said:
LivingMetal said:

I agree.  It's not a coincedence.  Trump started using "Fake News" after Obama did.

And when did most people?

I dunno.  I didn't poll the general audience.



The fake news concept is as stupid as the facts concept. In most cases facts are ideologically colored interpretations of the truth but they do not necessarily represent the truth. Especially the facts of so called fact checkers are often wrong because they are solely based on opinions or faked statistics.



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etking said:
The fake news concept is as stupid as the facts concept. In most cases facts are ideologically colored interpretations of the truth but they do not necessarily represent the truth. Especially the facts of so called fact checkers are often wrong because they are solely based on opinions or faked statistics.

It's called "paradigm."  And it's sad too many people are blinded by their's.



LivingMetal said:
naruball said:

And when did most people?

I dunno.  I didn't poll the general audience.

Good, good. I'm sure you apply this logic to everything.



etking said:
The fake news concept is as stupid as the facts concept. In most cases facts are ideologically colored interpretations of the truth but they do not necessarily represent the truth. Especially the facts of so called fact checkers are often wrong because they are solely based on opinions or faked statistics.

Or do you only say that because they disagree with your view?



naruball said:
LivingMetal said:

I dunno.  I didn't poll the general audience.

Good, good. I'm sure you apply this logic to everything.

The logic I'm applying is that do NOT get caught up in the trap of one's vague relatism ("most people" which is what YOU said) to further one's agenda.  But I will say that the term "fake news" originally came from the left to "justify" Trump's election win. Now, it's backfiring.  This is the big picture.



Scoobes said:
etking said:
The fake news concept is as stupid as the facts concept. In most cases facts are ideologically colored interpretations of the truth but they do not necessarily represent the truth. Especially the facts of so called fact checkers are often wrong because they are solely based on opinions or faked statistics.

Or do you only say that because they disagree with your view?

And what views are you assuming those would be?