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Is "Fake News" a legitimate concept?

Yes 43 61.43%
 
No 22 31.43%
 
Not sure 5 7.14%
 
Total:70

People are taking the term "Fake" News literally and thereby finding themselves either confused or overly-confident that they are justified in saying it is a stupid term. Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuUWBW9Y4zA

It's a story about how Trump spends more on vacation than Obama, probably a combination of the fact that people who grow up wealthy are less frugal and also the fact that Trump's extended family in the White House (many grown adults, unlike Obama's Daughters) is much much larger than other administrations. Cut to the chase, even if it's wrong, it's not the kind of content that determines whether a president does or does not do a good job.

That's my definition of fake news right there. Obviously it's not a fake story, for god's sake no one is that dumb. That's why I say "fast" news akin to fast-food is a more accurate term. Yes, it's food, and yes it has protein and other nutrients to satisfy what the body needs...but for how long? It's a bite-sized piece of news. It's not a thorough investigation into a deep matter. It's not like a 1-hour documentary into a deep topic like you'll find in a documentary or a documentary-style show like Anothy Bourdain's Part's Unknown or Mike Rowe's Somebody's Gotta Do It. It's not a movie on climate change or JFK, etc.

Does this help one understand "Fake News" better?

From that perspective then, one should see how this carries over to all subject matter, videogames, entertainment, music, food, politics, sports, etc. Substantive news that focuses on deep issues, and quick news that is shallow. Fast-anything has become rampant in a society where not only do we have a 24-hour news cycle but also 24-media channels/outlets. If there is, at max, maybe 1 hour worth of substantive news in a given day, then how do you fill the ramining hours and channels? With fast-news.

That's my argument/POV. So, does anyone else see the validity in this new term that's been getting tossed around?



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We had tons of articles with trivial information about Obama since 2008. My conservative friends posted them on fb every single day. Some times even several. Yet people started using the term "fake news" only after Trump did.

Coincidence? I think not.



As far as I heard, fake news are labeled as news which contain false informations on purpose. The goal is to spread misinformations.

News, where the source is later being verified as false are not considered fake news.



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Bandorr said:
Well Fake news IS a thing. You can look at anything Donald Trump is saying for proof of that.

You can look at the fake Sweden attack Trump made up yesterday.

He just misspoke. He meant that last night TV showed a segment about Sweden's problems with immigration. Not that last night something happened in Sweden.

So look what you just did, you provided fake information about Trump.



yeah this is absolutely a political discussion. The only substantive point you give regarding your (re)definition fake news is all about politics. Everything else is merely a very vague suggestion that it could be in any other subject matters. Nothing of substance. I consider this thread in the same category or your (re)definition of fake. The only reason you made this thread is because of politics. Nothing more nothing less.

If it wasn't stressed already, your definition of fake is wrong. Don't just try to change the definition of words to suit whatever agenda you have. I avoid these politics threads because they are so flagrantly annoying in regards to manipulating information.

Enough with the, "Alternative Fake News" and "Alternative Not Just Politics".

EDIT: I'd be hard pressed to bet more than 2 people in this thread discussing or suggesting anything other politics. So far there are none. This doesn't belong in the General Discussion.



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Bandorr said:
Slimebeast said:

He just misspoke. He meant that last night TV showed a segment about Sweden's problems with immigration. Not that last night something happened in Sweden.

So look what you just did, you provided fake information about Trump.

Yes and Conway "misspoke" about the bowling green massacre. Even though it wasn't a massacre. And it was covered by all the nations. And she made that "slip up" to at least three networks before.

Your desperate need to defend Trump and the countless mistakes he and his staff have made is just well.. sad. That people would actually defend the right to be lied so is so very sad.

No no no... don't go there. Don't try to deflect now. I just exposed you of spreading fake news! I think that was very funny and ironic.



Imo there is a lot of fake news from both sides.

I see a lot of my liberal friends post links like the Supreme Court Nominee was in a nazi group or something.



The problem is the quality of the reporters. Some reporters immediately go to conclusions of their own or mix in speculation and feelings. It's a recipe for disaster.


How about we all stick to the best news network ever? futurism.com is the way to go



Fake news has been happening long before the term has been popularized and it happens from both sides.



Miguel_Zorro said:
People only seem to care about fake news when it comes from the other side.

Pretty much this, and they will defend this missinformation, I see it in this thread already. It is only going to get worse, since we have adminstrations that now constantly do it. 

See the concept may exist for ages, and it exists look up fake incubator testimony which helped justify Gulf War, however this last two years I would say it is being passed around so readily.