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Mnementh said:
RolStoppable said:
What other requirements to vote than being 18+ would you suggest to be implemented? Being male?

I know it, I know it!

Your vote record shows that you vote responsible and take the right choice. So your first 10 elections your vote should be non-binding and counts only if you choose sensible. After ten elections this should be enough to build a record, and your vote is counted fully if your record shows you voted - say 90% - good. If your choices are more than 50% bad, then you are barred from voting for lifetime.

You sound like someone who likes calling people "comrade".



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Mnementh said:
Peh said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-majority-uk-remain-eu-theresa-may-article-50-second-referendum-latest-a7395811.html

http://www.businessinsider.de/brexit-vote-regret-leave-margin-victory-2016-10?r=US&IR=T

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/your-area-regret-voting-brexit-9810159

That's what I've found. According to them, the majority of people are now against the brexit.

OK, so with more time more people changed their opinion. That's not surprising. If that wouldn't happen, the government that was elected in one election wouldn't be able to lose in the next. What's the big deal? I regretted some votes in the past, because the politicians didn't do what I expected of them. I never thought about it being thread-worthy. I couldn't vote for Obama (because I'm german), but I was excited for him. Now I deeply sorry about that, because he didn't bring more peace as I expected, on the contrary. So, what is different about Brexit and Trump, that these normal processes do excite so much response?

There is a difference between regretting a vote after few days/weeks in contrast to several years.

Regret immediatley after vote can be caused by a badly informed and/or gullible voter. It's not like I go to a vote, mark my cross and 1 minute later I say: "Fuck, I regret what I did". That's plain stupid and idiotic.

Regret to vote for someone after several years is by observing if the government succeeded in what they wanted to accomplish or not. Thus, if they failed, that's ok to change your opinion and vote for a different party and give them a chance.

But what I listed are people that regret shorty after making their vote.

I thought that was pretty much obvious.



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Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Mnementh said:

I know it, I know it!

Your vote record shows that you vote responsible and take the right choice. So your first 10 elections your vote should be non-binding and counts only if you choose sensible. After ten elections this should be enough to build a record, and your vote is counted fully if your record shows you voted - say 90% - good. If your choices are more than 50% bad, then you are barred from voting for lifetime.

You sound like someone who likes calling people "comrade".

Well comrade, with my model Brexit and Trump wouldn't have happened.



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Peh said:
Mnementh said:

OK, so with more time more people changed their opinion. That's not surprising. If that wouldn't happen, the government that was elected in one election wouldn't be able to lose in the next. What's the big deal? I regretted some votes in the past, because the politicians didn't do what I expected of them. I never thought about it being thread-worthy. I couldn't vote for Obama (because I'm german), but I was excited for him. Now I deeply sorry about that, because he didn't bring more peace as I expected, on the contrary. So, what is different about Brexit and Trump, that these normal processes do excite so much response?

There is a difference between regretting a vote after few days/weeks in contrast to several years.

Regret immediatley after vote can be caused by a badly informed and/or gullible voter. It's not like I go to a vote, mark my cross and 1 minute later I say: "Fuck, I regret what I did". That's plain stupid and idiotic.

Regret to vote for someone after several years is by observing if the government succeeded in what they wanted to accomplish or not. Thus, if they failed, that's ok to change your opinion and vote for a different party and give them a chance.

But what I listed are people that regret shorty after making their vote.

I thought that was pretty much obvious.

There are always people who regret their vote practically the moment they leave the voting booth. You completely ignore, that people also regret voting for Bremain or Clinton. Yes, maybe these are less than the other way around, but that is also always the case, otherwise it wouldn't come to switches in popular opinion. Still after all, the regretters are a small minority. As they always are.

The only reason we hear so much about the people changing their opinion this time in difference to other times, is that many people are unwilling to accept the result of the elections.

Ask yourself - what if Clinton would've won in the close election and someone would open a thread about the people regretting their vote for Clinton. And there are such people. What would you think?



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RolStoppable said:
What other requirements to vote than being 18+ would you suggest to be implemented? Being male?

Yeah, being a male would be the first solution to all our problems /s

I don't know. One possibility would be to let every voter take a exam on the goals off each party you want to vote and see if you actually do understand what you are voting for. Because I have the feeling that some people did not informed themself before voting. Hence why they regret it. But that would be kind of ridiculous and impossible to implement.  

I really don't know. It just gets on my nerves when I see people regretting shortly after voting and this tells me, that these people shouldn't had the right to vote in the first place, because they are actually ignorant by the damage they can cause.



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Mnementh said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

You sound like someone who likes calling people "comrade".

Well comrade, with my model Brexit and Trump wouldn't have happened.

Those would have happened years sooner...



Mnementh said:
Peh said:

There is a difference between regretting a vote after few days/weeks in contrast to several years.

Regret immediatley after vote can be caused by a badly informed and/or gullible voter. It's not like I go to a vote, mark my cross and 1 minute later I say: "Fuck, I regret what I did". That's plain stupid and idiotic.

Regret to vote for someone after several years is by observing if the government succeeded in what they wanted to accomplish or not. Thus, if they failed, that's ok to change your opinion and vote for a different party and give them a chance.

But what I listed are people that regret shorty after making their vote.

I thought that was pretty much obvious.

There are always people who regret their vote practically the moment they leave the voting booth. You completely ignore, that people also regret voting for Bremain or Clinton. Yes, maybe these are less than the other way around, but that is also always the case, otherwise it wouldn't come to switches in popular opinion. Still after all, the regretters are a small minority. As they always are.

The only reason we hear so much about the people changing their opinion this time in difference to other times, is that many people are unwilling to accept the result of the elections.

Ask yourself - what if Clinton would've won in the close election and someone would open a thread about the people regretting their vote for Clinton. And there are such people. What would you think?

You clearly missed my point.

Let me get this straight:

Are you ok with people saying that they regret their vote after making their vote? What does it tell you about those people? And it doesn't matter for what they've voted for.  



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Peh said:
RolStoppable said:
What other requirements to vote than being 18+ would you suggest to be implemented? Being male?

Yeah, being a male would be the first solution to all our problems /s

(1) I don't know. One possibility would be to let every voter take a exam on the goals off each party you want to vote and see if you actually do understand what you are voting for. Because I have the feeling that some people did not informed themself before voting. Hence why they regret it. But that would be kind of ridiculous and impossible to implement.

(2) I really don't know. It just gets on my nerves when I see people regretting shortly after voting and this tells me, that these people shouldn't had the right to vote in the first place, because they are actually ignorant by the damage they can cause.

(1) Brilliant! That leaves no room for misuse.

Do communists eat small children? <--- You said no to this? Obviously you're not fit for taking an election.

But more seriously, let's look a bit back and ask voters of Obama:

* Does Obama bombs people from drones in foreign countries? Does he end imprisonment in Guantanamo?

 

(2) Well, actually your vote does have a lot less impact than you expect. Will the world be better with Brexit or Bremain? I actually don't know, too many variables. And can change Trump the US overnight? Obviously not, he has to face House and Senate. You have just to look how well his immigration ban is working, to understand that the president isn't all powerful.



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Peh said:
Mnementh said:

There are always people who regret their vote practically the moment they leave the voting booth. You completely ignore, that people also regret voting for Bremain or Clinton. Yes, maybe these are less than the other way around, but that is also always the case, otherwise it wouldn't come to switches in popular opinion. Still after all, the regretters are a small minority. As they always are.

The only reason we hear so much about the people changing their opinion this time in difference to other times, is that many people are unwilling to accept the result of the elections.

Ask yourself - what if Clinton would've won in the close election and someone would open a thread about the people regretting their vote for Clinton. And there are such people. What would you think?

You clearly missed my point.

Let me get this straight:

Are you ok with people saying that they regret their vote after making their vote? What does it tell you about those people? And it doesn't matter for what they've voted for.  

I can understand regret if the person you vote lies on campaign. But Trump is doing exactly what he said as far as I know. So that tells me that these people are idiotic, yep.