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VGPolyglot said:

2.8 million dollars is more than a large number of Americans will ever make in their lifetime. Yes, I still think she has a lot of sway and influence without holding office. Obama probably does too and he's not in office anymore, so why wouldn't Hillary?

Actually our generation is on track to make that much money, a million isn't worth much anymore over all these years when it'll only buy you a nice house in a big city ... (Inflation and rising wages will make millionaires more trivial.) 

It's even easier to campaign these days if you can get on the media like Donald Trump did ... (By now there is not a single person in America who doesn't know of Trump so he won't need to campaign much when running for re-election.) 

Both Obama and Hillary are nobodies when you don't put value in the past. They don't have ANY sort of power at the executive, legislative, judicial, state, or local level ... (That's right their lower than mayors you see for the cities!) 



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fatslob-:O said:
VGPolyglot said:

2.8 million dollars is more than a large number of Americans will ever make in their lifetime. Yes, I still think she has a lot of sway and influence without holding office. Obama probably does too and he's not in office anymore, so why wouldn't Hillary?

Actually our generation is on track to make that much money, a million isn't worth much anymore over all these years when it'll only buy you a nice house in a big city ... (Inflation and rising wages will make millionaires more trivial.) 

It's even easier to campaign these days if you can get on the media like Donald Trump did ... (By now there is not a single person in America who doesn't know of Trump so he won't need to campaign much when running for re-election.) 

Both Obama and Hillary are nobodies when you don't put value in the past. They don't have ANY sort of power at the executive, legislative, judicial, state, or local level ... (That's right their lower than mayors you see for the cities!) 

Yeah, so the amount Lincoln spent will have to be re-adjusted again, it's not like we'd use a modern conversion for a future comparison. And it end up being that way per capita, but the median will probably end up being a lot lower than that due to huge income inequality.

Maybe mayors have more power than Obama and Clinton in theory, but in practice it's not like the mayor of Flat Rock, Michigan is going to have the same influence as Obama.



VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, so the amount Lincoln spent will have to be re-adjusted again, it's not like we'd use a modern conversion for a future comparison. And it end up being that way per capita, but the median will probably end up being a lot lower than that due to huge income inequality.

Maybe mayors have more power than Obama and Clinton in theory, but in practice it's not like the mayor of Flat Rock, Michigan is going to have the same influence as Obama.

Money still can't help you win elections no matter what. All it comes down to is the votes in the end ... 

Actually, If anything mayors have more influence than former presidents or candidates who currently don't hold office since the former are the ones who are currently governing a body of electorates whereas the latter isn't ... 

What is Obama or Clinton going to do if a mayor chooses not to listen to them when their just citizens ? LOL ... 



fatslob-:O said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, so the amount Lincoln spent will have to be re-adjusted again, it's not like we'd use a modern conversion for a future comparison. And it end up being that way per capita, but the median will probably end up being a lot lower than that due to huge income inequality.

Maybe mayors have more power than Obama and Clinton in theory, but in practice it's not like the mayor of Flat Rock, Michigan is going to have the same influence as Obama.

Money still can't help you win elections no matter what. All it comes down to is the votes in the end ... 

Actually, If anything mayors have more influence than former presidents or candidates who currently don't hold office since the former are the ones who are currently governing a body of electorates whereas the latter isn't ... 

What is Obama or Clinton going to do if a mayor chooses not to listen to them when their just citizens ? LOL ... 

Yes, maybe in the end, as in election day itself it does not matter, but it's impossible to ignore the months preceeding the election, where almost every candidate either has to end their campaign or participate in an election where they're not even on the ballot in most states.





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UnderstatedCornHole said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
was hoping he would focus on common ground like trade deals and infrastructure. Instead he has focused on the most divisive issues like travel bans and walls

You mean you hoped he would focus on the things that democrats should and didn't do under their policy stance.

Trump is following through on those things as well as the other policy line up he promised that doesn't tally with democrat's wishes, Hillary didn't win the election.

This is not to be rude because what you say sounds reasonable but is actually completely unreasonable because the things you want are universal thins that all americans want.

Building a wall is not a divisive issues except in the imaginary world of the media and the brainwashed liberal posse who don't know what they are actually fighting for. You against borders? You against a president making decsions on immigration when a threat is perceived?

....I don't remember Bush being congratulated for the twin towers incident.

Look if he wanted to do that stuff and since he promised it then he's more than entitled to do so since he did win.  I'm just saying it's the SMARTER move to pursue common ground like infrastructure rebuilding and trade deal restructuring since he would find more support across the aisle AND with his own party.  I mean it just makes sense that if you're going to do something that will piss off the other side to do it later rather than sooner.  It expends all your political capitol early.

I would ask him to be more fair about the travel ban in that he didn't stop countries like Saudi Arabia that have had more terrorists come out of them to the US than all the ones he DID ban combined.  I support the wall and stronger borders overall but the travel ban the way he did it does not work for me.



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Locknuts said:
I wish I could have voted for Trump. Unfortunately I'm in the wrong country.

He has done exactly what he said he would do as far as I can tell. When you vote for someone that's what you want, right?

Eventually, I realized he wasn't who I wanted, but he's still better than the other politician running. You'd anyways have to be complete fucking mental to vote for him if you were an illegal immigrant. 



AsGryffynn said:
Locknuts said:
I wish I could have voted for Trump. Unfortunately I'm in the wrong country.

He has done exactly what he said he would do as far as I can tell. When you vote for someone that's what you want, right?

Eventually, I realized he wasn't who I wanted, but he's still better than the other politician running. You'd anyways have to be complete fucking mental to vote for him if you were an illegal immigrant. 

So illegals can vote? How does that work?



Locknuts said:
AsGryffynn said:

Eventually, I realized he wasn't who I wanted, but he's still better than the other politician running. You'd anyways have to be complete fucking mental to vote for him if you were an illegal immigrant. 

So illegals can vote? How does that work?

Apparently they did...