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Slarvax on 17 February 2017
superchunk said:
oniyide said:

considering how Ninty has operated with things like this, why cant he not assume?

1. With Wii U you were able to bring your Nintendo console based Wii VC games over with a very small cost. Wii U only has Nintendo console VC content.

2. Nintendo now ties 100% of content to your account and that has been done with the launch of My Nintendo and that includes digital content purchased on Wii U and 3DS.

3. When Nintendo stated Switch does not have backwards compatability, it specifically only called out physical games.

4. Reggie also highlighted VC as an option in an interview with Wired. 

What I would say first is, we recognize that some of our most passionate fans have spent quite a bit, whether it's with Virtual Console on Wii or Wii U, and we recognize that consumers are rightly concerned about moving to Nintendo Switch without backward compatibility. My comment is: Stay tuned, we understand the concern, more information to come.

~ https://www.wired.com/2017/01/reggie-fils-aime-nintendo-interview/

I think that all highly suggests that Nintendo WILL have a digital form of backwards compatability, if only for VC titles. We do know that VC titles (some) will be getting enhanced with online play and maybe they will, once again, make us pay $1~$2 to upgrade the titles to Switch from either our WiiU or 3DS .. or free if we owned the title on both systems.

That last part would make no sense. We have to pay $20~$25 to play online already.



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Miyamotoo on 17 February 2017
maxleresistant said:
Miyamotoo said:

Again it's better late than never. You sound like its better that they didn't do this at all.

 

 

You needed to call Nintendo before because purchases were tied to console itself not to account, and now they are tied to account not to console, so there is no need any more to call Nintendo.

You don't need to say "better late than never", yes, it's true, it's always true, that's why people say it. But it's a cheap meaningless cop out, I refuse to say it, because Nintendo wasn't just late, Nintendo was stubborn, out of touch, and a pain in the ass. They finally came to their senses, but way too late. That's what need to be said.

 

Yes, they were stubborn and out of touch, and now they changing some of staffs to better, and thats off course good and positive thing, but you actually sound like thats something negative or bad thing. You basically clearly positive thing spin off into something negative. Yes they could do that long time ago, but actually most important is they actually doing that.

 

oniyide said:
Miyamotoo said:

Again it's better late than never. You sound like its better that they didn't do this at all.

 

 

I think he's saying its nothing to praise Nintendo over.

Its nothing to praise, but this is actually very positive thing in any case, not something negative.



superchunk on 17 February 2017
Slarvax said:
superchunk said:

1. With Wii U you were able to bring your Nintendo console based Wii VC games over with a very small cost. Wii U only has Nintendo console VC content.

2. Nintendo now ties 100% of content to your account and that has been done with the launch of My Nintendo and that includes digital content purchased on Wii U and 3DS.

3. When Nintendo stated Switch does not have backwards compatability, it specifically only called out physical games.

4. Reggie also highlighted VC as an option in an interview with Wired. 

What I would say first is, we recognize that some of our most passionate fans have spent quite a bit, whether it's with Virtual Console on Wii or Wii U, and we recognize that consumers are rightly concerned about moving to Nintendo Switch without backward compatibility. My comment is: Stay tuned, we understand the concern, more information to come.

~ https://www.wired.com/2017/01/reggie-fils-aime-nintendo-interview/

I think that all highly suggests that Nintendo WILL have a digital form of backwards compatability, if only for VC titles. We do know that VC titles (some) will be getting enhanced with online play and maybe they will, once again, make us pay $1~$2 to upgrade the titles to Switch from either our WiiU or 3DS .. or free if we owned the title on both systems.

That last part would make no sense. We have to pay $20~$25 to play online already.

I didn't mean to imply that the only enhancement would be online play. In fact, I would bet that would only be on a few VC titles comparatively speaking. I also don't see Nintendo tying WiiU to NS migration of VC content to an optional service you can turn off at any time.

I think we'll see one of two outcomes.

1. [unlikely - preferred] Free transfer as all the Wii U titles launch at same time on NS (maybe not 3/3, but all at same time). This would imply they only had to upgrade a core component and not each ROM, thus lower dev costs and worth allowing everyone to just copy over.

2. [my guess] Same transfer fee as before when each title releases it is $1~$2 or free if you own on WiiU and 3DS. This would imply they had to touch every game on top of the core components. For WiiU they added better UX and save states which is also available on 3DS versions. Maybe NS will add improved (true to original) emulation (graphic, brightness, etc) plus the option to play select titles online once they've been enhanced via the monthly subscription.

3. [unlikely] A separate pay service that focuses solely on VC content. 100% access to enture VC catalog for $x/mo. If you sign up to this, then you get to move all content you already own for free (after say 3 mos of service) plus you get to play all other titles and can choose to fully own any other title for a discounted price. "own" in this case means you keep access to the title if you turn this service off. 

Either way, it is annoying that they have not talked about VC yet at all. Its become a great value and feature of Nintendo consoles and to not even confirm it will exist is just annoying.



sethnintendo on 17 February 2017

I'm leaving all my VC on the 3DS and Wii U. Nintendo dropped the ball on VC for the Wii U. Wii VC runs laps around the Wii U VC. I don't know what the fuck they are thinking when it comes to VC. VC support showed some promise at the start and middle for the Wii U and 3DS and then it just went to shit. It is like they just don't care about making money anymore of easy VC ports.



sethnintendo on 17 February 2017

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Jumpin on 17 February 2017
dahuman said:
so.... 14 years late?

Well, a little over 10 years at the most. VC launched in late 2006, and an account system wasn't really required until Nintendo began expanding the hardware it was on. But I agree, the Wii U and 3DS was bullshit for VC.



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Super_Boom on 17 February 2017
MohammadBadir said:
Still scared about the day my 3DS will crap out and lose all my digital purchases. Considering the fact that my 2006 GBASP still works though, that may take some time, but still.

Do you have an NNID linked to your 3DS? When I bought my new 3DS, I had to interrupt the transfer process, and discovered that all my digital purchases were just sitting there, waiting to be redownloaded, including the ones I bought before linking my NNID. The process to download them again was so simple...it honestly surprises me that people still worry about this kinda thing.

Of course, NNID implementation didn't happen until a year or two ago, but still, this doesn't really seem like news anymore.



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sethnintendo on 17 February 2017
Super_Boom said:
MohammadBadir said:
Still scared about the day my 3DS will crap out and lose all my digital purchases. Considering the fact that my 2006 GBASP still works though, that may take some time, but still.

Do you have an NNID linked to your 3DS? When I bought my new 3DS, I had to interrupt the transfer process, and discovered that all my digital purchases were just sitting there, waiting to be redownloaded, including the ones I bought before linking my NNID. The process to download them again was so simple...it honestly surprises me that people still worry about this kinda thing.

Of course, NNID implementation didn't happen until a year or two ago, but still, this doesn't really seem like news anymore.

Yea I was able to transfer my eshop purchases to my New 3DS XL from my original 3DS.  Only problem was the save files fucked up during transfer so I lost all my eshop games saved files.  Wasn't the end of world but it sucked losing my Animal Crossing New Leaf save file (one of only 2 retail games I purchased on eshop).  Ended up restarting game and probably creating a better village but I wasn't too happy at first.  It did get me to play previously beaten games again that I might not have gone back to.  Basically it sucked the transfer messed up for the saved files but I still was able to redownload all the games (took a hour or so considering I have a shitload of eshop games).

However, he is worried about his system crapping out on him.  If that happens then he would have to contact Nintendo Customer Service to try and get his games onto a new system.  Have to jump through a few hoops but I believe the Customer Service Reps can fix the issue of getting previous purchased games onto a new system if the previous system was lost or damaged.



oniyide on 17 February 2017
Miyamotoo said:
maxleresistant said:

You don't need to say "better late than never", yes, it's true, it's always true, that's why people say it. But it's a cheap meaningless cop out, I refuse to say it, because Nintendo wasn't just late, Nintendo was stubborn, out of touch, and a pain in the ass. They finally came to their senses, but way too late. That's what need to be said.

 

Yes, they were stubborn and out of touch, and now they changing some of staffs to better, and thats off course good and positive thing, but you actually sound like thats something negative or bad thing. You basically clearly positive thing spin off into something negative. Yes they could do that long time ago, but actually most important is they actually doing that.

 

oniyide said:

I think he's saying its nothing to praise Nintendo over.

Its nothing to praise, but this is actually very positive thing in any case, not something negative.

who said it was negative?



Super_Boom on 17 February 2017
sethnintendo said:

Yea I was able to transfer my eshop purchases to my New 3DS XL from my original 3DS.  Only problem was the save files fucked up during transfer so I lost all my eshop games saved files.  Wasn't the end of world but it sucked losing my Animal Crossing New Leaf save file (one of only 2 retail games I purchased on eshop).  Ended up restarting game and probably creating a better village but I wasn't too happy at first.  It did get me to play previously beaten games again that I might not have gone back to.  Basically it sucked the transfer messed up for the saved files but I still was able to redownload all the games (took a hour or so considering I have a shitload of eshop games).

However, he is worried about his system crapping out on him.  If that happens then he would have to contact Nintendo Customer Service to try and get his games onto a new system.  Have to jump through a few hoops but I believe the Customer Service Reps can fix the issue of getting previous purchased games onto a new system if the previous system was lost or damaged.

I see...I assumed it was as simple as just registering your NNID to your new system, and then having access to the games on the eShop. Is there a one-system limit or something?

That really stings losing your data though...crap. I was a lot luckier I guess.



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