I find that the casuals I know basically have RPG consoles. In most cases they don't even know about 80% of the games I am interested in.

I was simply reffering to what is the most popular in the video game industry, and assigned it this value of "majority". I fully agree with the second paragraph.

So basically, you are saying that we are the superior gamers who can decide what games are and are not considered hardcore, and those who put insane amount of time, dedication, effort into games not from those categories, are casuals?

Edit: ^^^ Not to be taken as something overly serious. This is a matter of semantics after all.

I am saying that you don't have to be superior anything to know which game or even franchise is "hardcore". Its a simple fact, some games are more complicated than others, some are harder than others some are more popular than others....etc.

Anyone that puts an insane amount of time into anything will be good at it. But thats not the issue..... a gamer can be a "hardcore" FIFA/COD or *insert any game or two here* and still be an all round casual gamer. 

I consider hardcore gamers to be gamers that are into at least 80% of the game genres out there and even the niche ones that neevr really make it to the mainstream. And as such are generally more knowledgeable on gaming as a whole than the casuals. I think that distinction is the mot imoortant thing in differentiating hardcore from casuals.

Its like you ask a casual are you into FPS games? And he would likely go yh of course I play halo.... while all the while what you had in your head was Deus Ex or Dishonored.

We have different tastes I guess, and who is to say people here don't like those games either?

While I generally have a similar view to this, it is all semantics in the end. If such people are called, video game enthusiasts, hobyists, simply passionate about video games, or "hardcore gamers", doesn't really matter. For me I just don't like the black and white distinction between the hardcore and casual, as there is no exact distinction and there are many different levels of involvement that a "gamer" could have.

For example if there is a gamer who only plays RPG games, but he spends most of his free time playing such games and is an expert of those games. According to the definition above said person would not be considered a harcore gamer. Again, semantics, but I just don't really like these distinctions of segregating and labeling groups of gamers based on what games they choose to play.

Either way, going back to the OP: the more niche communities you will be in, the less representative of what is generally popular said community will be. I believe this statement sufficiently answers the OP, without the use of terms that could derail the discussion into semantics.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/most-wished-for/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_mw#1

I guess it`s an every hardcore online community about certain subject thing. I remember I used to participate at TV forums while there were still plasma vs LCD fighting for market share and LCD was crushing plasma in sales. At this forum people were plasma fans and evangelists, and were sad because general market had chosen LCD.

The same thing with smartphones. Most people in internet forums will get high-end androids, and mostly from companies like Oppo and One Plus, while most people will choose a cheaper android phone and if they want a premium phone they are automatically going for an iPhone or maybe a Galaxy S.

Or if we go to a music forum, like Prince dedicated forum, people will say he made his best music in 90`s or 2000`s while general public will only know his music from the 80`s and maybe one thing or another from the 90`s.

"call of duty, fifa, madden, etc"

Are casual gamer experiences. We are a group of core gaming enthusiasts, which is why we frequent game sales sites and general gamer forums. Thus, we play a wider group of games that are simply better games than the yearly juggernauts.

No, you can't say that about Mass Effect simply because it isn't that popular. While it is true that not everyone is passionate about the game, it's not even in the ballpark.

No, it is not coming from a sense of wanting to feel superior. If case you haven't noticed the topic is about the apparent disparency between real life and videogames forum - and that was why it is so. In real life you see more people that play popular games because they are popular, while on videogames community you see less of them.

And, you're argumenting a non-sequitur. I'm not talking about something making you something, but about typical behaviour of a group of people; the hardcore gamers get hyped about the games, but getting hyped about the games does not make you a hardcore gamer. 

You know, you try to argue that since some people play the games passionately, they all do. Which isn't the case. The games you play don't make you a hardcore gamer or casual gamer. It's just that some games have more casual gamers playing them than the others. 

I don't know why are you bringing up wanting to feel superior, as nobody else is bringing it up.

Mainly because we know more about games than the general population and we Tire of yearly installments. everyone else out there plays what's popular they don't even go by Word of Mouth or review scores and they don't research.

They look at a commercial and say well damn that looks cool buy the game and the system that it's advertised for. I mean scores aren't worth anything anymore but we tend to know quality from crap which is why we tend to not buy yearly installments and the novelty of Call of Duty has worn off of us

Also there may be more Sony type post but the site is mostly Nintendo gamers