Yeah that was another thing I ran into. I used to move the ps4 back and forth between the living room and my game room. So everything was always there. Now I need to download patches twice and manually upload/download or copy save games (and don't make dumb mistakes or lose progress).

On ps2 I simply took the memory card and disc along. ps3 sucked too btw. At least in GT5 prologue. If I played that on my ps3 in the livingroom, it would be locked out to play for 24h on my other ps3. That was early days though, I guess they fixed that for later titles. It was definitely a wtf moment back then.

Many games are like that. You only get part of the game on the disk, then you download the rest.

On the other hand, you can play that one purchase on two consoles at the same time... Pros and cons... Everything has those... Congrats for you for finding this con...

Must be a newer version as that works on my laptop too after I disconnect wifi. On my desktop it never gets past the login screen, never gives the option to start offline. It has been offline for over a year so I guess its missing the start offline update. I wonder if you can update steam through a usb stick. I guess if I duplicate the Steam directory onto my desktop it should work in theory. Nothing to lose, gonna try.

Update: Tested it by installing steam on a thumbdrive. I can run Steam from the thumbdrive on my laptop offline, but my desktop insists on going online to update Steam when I try it there, so no go. Either something is missing in the registry or a windows 8.1 Steam install is incompatible with Windows 7. It was worth a shot.

How hard is it to put a disc in a system?

Thats not an issue either if the PS4 is your only PS4 console

For me Physical all the way, it saves a lot of money and huzzle. Just some days ago i borrowed  Resident Evil 7 from my brother, dont have to buy to play the game and can spend my money elsewhere. 

Thats because most PS4 games install and let you game at the same time, it only reads a portion first and installs the rest

its really unlikeley that he and his kids want to play the same game at the same time, except if its something like a heavily MP based game

It's still not copying 30Gb+ of data in only 10 seconds. Even copying that amount between two SSD's takes longer than that. lol Optical Discs are slow.

It's copying a small amount of data, just enough for the game to run and keeps installing in the background.

The Xbox 360 sort-of took this route. Majority of games could be run directly from the Disc, but you could also install the games to the Hard Drive which decreased load times.
Some games would use the Disc and Hard Drive in tandem to stream assets.

Yeah thats right!  I still don't get why they are expensive as the physical copies. 

True, you can set your friend's ps4 as your primary while he sets your ps4 as his primary, that way you can both always enjoy eachother's games without any restrictions (as long as psn is up) and even play the same game together online. Pay only half day 1.

Meanwhile we can't play 2 different games on 2 different ps4s in the same household on the same account.
(ofcourse if we want to play the same game together we'll do it on the same system, my kids aren't that ugly)

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It depends, can you find the disc?

Can you find the ps4?

Nvm, can you get up from the couch?
Sometimes digital is easier!

Because people are willing to pay that much for not having to swap discs! Online movie rentals cost more than physical rental as well. Most physical blu-rays are cheaper than buying a digital movie, and the blu-ray includes the digital version!