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monocle_layton said:
justiceiro said:

Still not the best, and you said that was the "best of handheld".

Yes, it is the best of handhelds. You're just nitpicking and trying to dislike a product for the sake of disliking it.

 

I'd get it if the switch was 8 inches and weighed 10 pounds, but it isn't. It's very mobile, similar to how the ds was mobile  (even with how thick it was).

I'm being realist about the concept of hybrid system. There will be compromises on both fronts. We alreadly see that the battery life is poor. The games will also be more expensive and put small publisher in a tough position, where even small handheld games must be developed to be played on a big screen.

This is not something that you can understand rigth now since the system didn't came out and you seems to be pretty sure that the concept has no shortcoming. But few years from now you will be agreening with me. See you in 3 years.



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justiceiro said:
monocle_layton said:

Yes, it is the best of handhelds. You're just nitpicking and trying to dislike a product for the sake of disliking it.

 

I'd get it if the switch was 8 inches and weighed 10 pounds, but it isn't. It's very mobile, similar to how the ds was mobile  (even with how thick it was).

I'm being realist about the concept of hybrid system. There will be compromises on both fronts. We alreadly see that the battery life is poor. The games will also be more expensive and put small publisher in a tough position, where even small handheld games must be developed to be played on a big screen.

This is not something that you can understand rigth now since the system didn't came out and you seems to be pretty sure that the concept has no shortcoming. But few years from now you will be agreening with me. See you in 3 years.

What? I never said it was perfect. However, the system manages to solve both the 3DS and Wii U's issues. 

 

Snake Pass was running on the Switch in a week and will release alongside the other systems. They're a small publisher and managed to do it just fine. The battery life is equivalent to the 3DS. 2.5-6 hours is close to the same thing, even though the 3DS is laughably weaker. 

 

I'm not saying the Switch will sell as much as the DS. Literally no one is saying that. Expecting it to flop like the Wii U is pretty unrealistic though. 



justiceiro said:

I'm being realist about the concept of hybrid system. There will be compromises on both fronts. We alreadly see that the battery life is poor. 

Switch's battery life is not that different than 3DS and Vita.



monocle_layton said:
Pemalite said:

I did point out that a higher resolution screen would not blow out costs, did you miss that part?
Plus, you do understand what this thread topic is about right? Right?

Besides, it is not the only part that I have contention with, shall I point the others out?

If you don't like what I have to say. Don't read it.

It's not that I don't want to read it. I just find it hilarious how people can get so irritated over a device they probably wouldn't have even bought in the first place. What do you gain from whining over a screen? Will Nintendo magically go to a high quality 1080p samsung screen just so you have another place to watch Netflix? 

Please please please, don't use the argument of assuming whether someone will or won't be buying a particular console.

I have been both vocal and mostly negative about the Switch, it's features, it's software, Nintendo in general, and I'll still have a switch sat on my desk come March 3rd, the "well you likely wouldn't be buying one anyway" angle is so tired, wrong and pointless.

The only time people ever use that tact is to dismiss another persons points without actually addressing them.



NATO said:
monocle_layton said:

It's not that I don't want to read it. I just find it hilarious how people can get so irritated over a device they probably wouldn't have even bought in the first place. What do you gain from whining over a screen? Will Nintendo magically go to a high quality 1080p samsung screen just so you have another place to watch Netflix? 

Please please please, don't use the argument of assuming whether someone will or won't be buying a particular console.

I have been both vocal and mostly negative about the Switch, it's features, it's software, Nintendo in general, and I'll still have a switch sat on my desk come March 3rd, the "well you likely wouldn't be buying one anyway" angle is so tired, wrong and pointless.

The only time people ever use that tact is to dismiss another persons points without actually addressing them.

The problem is that unlike you, whining over a 1080p is essentially useless.

 

I said it before- the screen would make the battery life worse, which would make them complain about the battery life even more. yes, you can point to the Galaxy X having a 2k/4k screen, but is it really necessary? As gorgeous as the screen  is on my Note 5, I honestly would sacrifice the 2k screen for a 1080p screen if it means a better battery life. 

The difference between 720p-1080p isn't as big as the difference between subhd-HD, especially when it comes to Indies. It'd just be a waste to put so much effort on the screen when most people who tried it out already said it is solid.



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Yerm said:
when docked to a TV it can display 1080p, but the Switch itself has a 720p screen

Seriously?



Mystro-Sama said:
Yerm said:
when docked to a TV it can display 1080p, but the Switch itself has a 720p screen

Seriously?

Yep.

1080p screen would've made the battery life much lower, thus making the portability redundant.



monocle_layton said:
NATO said:

Please please please, don't use the argument of assuming whether someone will or won't be buying a particular console.

I have been both vocal and mostly negative about the Switch, it's features, it's software, Nintendo in general, and I'll still have a switch sat on my desk come March 3rd, the "well you likely wouldn't be buying one anyway" angle is so tired, wrong and pointless.

The only time people ever use that tact is to dismiss another persons points without actually addressing them.

The problem is that unlike you, whining over a 1080p is essentially useless.

 

I said it before- the screen would make the battery life worse, which would make them complain about the battery life even more. yes, you can point to the Galaxy X having a 2k/4k screen, but is it really necessary? As gorgeous as the screen  is on my Note 5, I honestly would sacrifice the 2k screen for a 1080p screen if it means a better battery life. 

The difference between 720p-1080p isn't as big as the difference between subhd-HD, especially when it comes to Indies. It'd just be a waste to put so much effort on the screen when most people who tried it out already said it is solid.

I've already stated that I think 720p with good aa/effects would have been a better fit than the 1080p no aa, but at the same time, they shouldn't lock performance mode behind the tvout automatic switch, it should be triggered by power input and stick with 720p all together, that way if you connected a charger, or external battery pack via usb-c you'd get performance mode on the go.

That to me would have been way more appealing.



monocle_layton said:

Will Nintendo magically go to a high quality 1080p samsung screen just so you have another place to watch Netflix? 

It's called a discussion.

Plus Nintendo has the door open to release a revised model with a larger, higher resolution screen.

And what makes you think Netflix is the only app?

monocle_layton said:

I just find it hilarious how people can get so irritated over a device they probably wouldn't have even bought in the first place.


Because you know exactly what my purchasing decisions are, right?

monocle_layton said:

I said it before- the screen would make the battery life worse, which would make them complain about the battery life even more. yes, you can point to the Galaxy X having a 2k/4k screen, but is it really necessary? As gorgeous as the screen  is on my Note 5, I honestly would sacrifice the 2k screen for a 1080p screen if it means a better battery life. 

The difference between 720p-1080p isn't as big as the difference between subhd-HD, especially when it comes to Indies. It'd just be a waste to put so much effort on the screen when most people who tried it out already said it is solid.

The Note 5 (I also have one) battery life is due to other terrible decisions. The anemic battery is one of them.
Converesly, my Note 5's battery life beats my Lumia 920 which had a 720P display. Go figure.

What if I told you that you can have a higher resolution display... And save battery life? Different display technologies have different power requirements, plain-jane IPS isn't the most efficient display technology on the market. - But I think you already know that, but forget to mention it?

More to it than just resolution that consumes power.



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I wonder later on if there will be a Switch model that actually abandons the current portable mode and gives full docked performance as a portable as an option and hdmi output just switches on when you dock it without any need to change display resolution output. I guess a battery economy mode could be enabled that drops it to current Switch portable performance and would run the revised Switch 1080p screen at 720p although not sure if that would save power for the screen itself but would save power for the gpu.

One thing that has been very unimpressive about the Switch is its docked performance compared to Portable. The upgrade in graphics hardly seems worrying about.

In fact completely contrary to the above statement I would mind if there was a budget Switch portable, smaller etc that still had hdmi output and never went above portable performance even when connected to tv's. That way it could be made smaller more quickly to takeover from 3DS.

This first version of Switch just seems really rubbish to be honest to me. I don't think a Nintendo console has ever been more disappointing.