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When was the last time a console pretty much sold out for 7 months straight in all 3 regions?



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I don't believe it.



2006/2007

7m

2008

14

2009

15

2010

12

2011

8

TOTAL 56m NA

 



WiiFit will be 2008 #1 selling game in NORTH AMERICA!  
End of '08 Predictions: Wii - 48m X360 - 25m  PS3 - 19m
Wii monthly NA sales will top 400k every month in '08. *Jan sales ruined it. Grrrr!*
WiiFit will top 1m in sales in its first month of release in North America.
MGS4 will NOT be released in '08. *Darn it!* FF13 will NOT be released in '08.
Rockband Wii will top 600k in first month sales in North America.
WiiFit will pass the PS3 WW sales by Xmas '09.

TheSource said:

Has anyone ever considered that Wii could shrink the world videogame market even as it dominates it?  This may sound crazy, but the industry has seen tremendous growth over the last 20 years, and I think disruptive technology needs to be watched.  I don't think what I'm about to write will happen, but I don't think it is completely out there either.  Here are the steps that bring about Wii domination in a smaller videogame industry.

1) Wii hardware sells very well for at least 18 months worldwide

2) Developers need to make as much as money as possible and flock to the fastest growing/biggest userbase.

3) Wii software sales profits become equal or greater to 360 and/or PS3 sales once Wii passes/ gets even with 360 worldwide.

3) 85-90% of Wii games from 3rd parties focus on motion-sensing control schemes, because they think only those games have a chance to compete with Nintendo's titles.

4) With the vast majority of 3rd party exclusives going to Wii, a number of gamers who bought GC/Xbox/PS2 do not upgrade because they want 3rd party traditional games, but dislike most motion control games.

5) Nintendo keeps 2/3 of GC users, brings in 40 million new gamers, and steals 30 million casual gamers from the 150-160 million gamers it did not have last generation.  Sony and Microsoft (combined) convince 40-60 million users to upgrade from last gen, and add in 10-15 million new users each.

6) Worldwide totals end up like this: Wii 85 million, 360 50 million, PS3 35 million.  That is alot of new gamers, however, I think Wii domination may create 30 million+ lapsed gamers for those who dislike the direction gaming is heading.  For comparison, last generation (PS2, GC, Xbox) was 170 million - meaning that the market shrunk considering population growth.  In theory, a future disruptive device could pick up the lapsed gamers Wii may create. 


This sounds clearly possible, but remember what Nintendo did with the DS - it sells like crazy, but still the PSP could reach 40-50 million units worldwide. At this point in time, the DS just reached GBA sales in US+Japan if you align launches (of course Europe is another story: the DS nearly sold as much as the GBA ever did in it´s life over here) but the PSP sold about 15m in these two regions, too. This is a big growth since last Gen and I expect the Wii to expand the market in about the same dimensions...



n00b said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
n00b said:
Yeah, I remember when they said they were going to sell 50 million GameCubes by March 2005, too. LMAO Nintendo LMAO

7.31 million in little over 6 months


 Think you mean more like 3 million. So, they should hit that number in about what, mid 2012? lol, good luck with THAT.


 basically that means average sales of little over 500K a month, very possible



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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I think it is inevitable that Wii creates a large amount of lapsed gamers. Just like there are people who talk about the glory years of Atari 2600, or the glory years of SNES/Genesis, there will be those who remember the glory years of PS2. The second generation dominated by one way of thinking always creates this effect. But to Nintendo, the untapped market segments vastly outweigh the portion of the existing market which may quit gaming, especially considering the bulk of those gamers were buying PlayStation consoles exclusively.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

FishyJoe said:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aoqLHZILbNng&refer=home

Nintendo Co., the No. 1 maker of portable game consoles, may rise. The company expects to sell as many as 35 million Wii video-game consoles in the U.S., close to the record 38.2 million PlayStation 2 players sold by Sony Corp, the company said yesterday.


Why 35 million? Why 3 million less than the Playstation 2? I mean, come on, if the prediction is that close to what Sony achieved last generation, you might as well just say 39 million. If Nintendo truely wants to take back the crown, they can't just beat the Playstation 3, but also the Playstation 2. No Nintendo. You are not going to sell 35 million. You are going to sell 39 million. No... 50 million in the United States!

Well, even if they do sell 35 million in the United States, they will sell so much more in the other parts of the world, that at the end, it should outsell the Playstation 2.



They won't be able to pass the PS2's numbers because there won't be as many people needing to buy replacement consoles because of bad hardware reliability. ;)



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35m is very optimistic IMHO.

Yes the Wii has had a brilliant start in all three markets and has done well to convert no-gamers into buying Wii's, but getting to 35m in the US alone in 5 years time is no easy feat.  It has taken the PS2 7 years to get to over 387-38m and this was when there was totally different competition.  Also, we have to take the handheld market into account, because I honestly feel that they are and will take sales away from the potential home console buyers.

As I've stated before, I don't think the Wii will have a long lifespan and feel that 2007 and 2008 will be it's best years (sales) wise...then it will decline over the next 2 years.

There has been 3m sales in America so far since it's release 6 months ago and these figures include Canada as well...so I'm not too sure what the actual US figures are....but to get 35 million by 2012, then they will need to sell at least 32 million over 5 years...thats over 6m a year on average in the US alone.  Which means that they will need to keep sales at exactly the same level they have been at already constantly for 5 years....no way!!!

A more realistic number IMHO is closer to 25m by 2012



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

Which means that they will need to keep sales at exactly the same level they have been at already constantly for 5 years....no way!!! Thats generally what the leading console for a generation does, Id post a graph comparing snes ps2 and ps1 (the last three leading consoles) but the graph thing doesnt seem to be working. Anyway the leading console generally seems to have a spike at launch then have a flat line of weekly sales interrupted by more spikes as events such as game releases and price cuts occur and only falter at the coming of the next gen.