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Goatseye on 15 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

What is it?

It's a political ideology against hierarchy and unjustified authority. That means that anarchists oppose the capitalist system and the state because they create unfair inequality and a hierarchy instead of a horizontal, cooperative system. The people that are protesting in the Netherlands support the existence of the Turkish state, so they cannot be anarchists.

Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority. 

The people protesting in NL, conviniently gathered during their election time, with the intent of sparking nationalistic sentiments in Holland and tip the balance to the friends of their common friend.

It's not that hard to see how some forces are trying to influence the outcome of elections in the Western world.


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Eagle367 on 15 March 2017

Power corrupts. He started out better than the Atatürk administration but now he has gone insane. That man I'm sorry to say needs to have a heart attack otherwise the people of turkey will suffer. If the referendum is not rigged, hope his policy gets debunked harder than a vote between ice cream and Grass



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VGPolyglot on 15 March 2017
Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

It's a political ideology against hierarchy and unjustified authority. That means that anarchists oppose the capitalist system and the state because they create unfair inequality and a hierarchy instead of a horizontal, cooperative system. The people that are protesting in the Netherlands support the existence of the Turkish state, so they cannot be anarchists.

Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority. 

The people protesting in NL, conviniently gathered during their election time, with the intent of sparking nationalistic sentiments in Holland and tip the balance to the friends of their common friend.

It's not that hard to see how some forces are trying to influence the outcome of elections in the Western world.

That's not anarchy, that's chaos. Chaos does not equal anarchy.



Eagle367 on 15 March 2017
Gourmet said:
RolStoppable said:
Is war in the Middle East expected to last for several more decades?

Centuries or milennia. Just read their holy book.

Nahi the middle east was pretty peaceful before the white supremicist English invaded and than USA continuing their work inside the region. If left alone by intruders it will set itself straight in a century or less



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Goatseye on 15 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority. 

The people protesting in NL, conviniently gathered during their election time, with the intent of sparking nationalistic sentiments in Holland and tip the balance to the friends of their common friend.

It's not that hard to see how some forces are trying to influence the outcome of elections in the Western world.

That's not anarchy, that's chaos. Chaos does not equal anarchy.

Are you saying that dictionary is wrong? 



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VGPolyglot on 15 March 2017
Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

That's not anarchy, that's chaos. Chaos does not equal anarchy.

Are you saying that dictionary is wrong? 

Which dictionary was it? And of course it could be misleading, politically motivated words can be swayed depending on who is writing the dictionary.



Goatseye on 15 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

Are you saying that dictionary is wrong? 

Which dictionary was it? And of course it could be misleading, politically motivated words can be swayed depending on who is writing the dictionary.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anarchy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy



VGPolyglot on 15 March 2017
Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

Which dictionary was it? And of course it could be misleading, politically motivated words can be swayed depending on who is writing the dictionary.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anarchy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anarchy

Look, it says right in the etymology that it refers to "order without power", which is what I said it was. Order is the opposite of chaos. In fact the motto of anarchism is «l'anarchie, c'est l'ordre», which in English means "anarchy is order".



Goatseye on 15 March 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anarchy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anarchy

Look, it says right in the etymology that it refers to "order without power", which is what I said it was. Order is the opposite of chaos. In fact the motto of anarchism is «l'anarchie, c'est l'ordre», which in English means "anarchy is order".

In theory... and that's a paradox. 

Anarchy doesn't mean order by the way. To have order, you have to have structure, which is absent in an anarchic state.



VGPolyglot on 15 March 2017
Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=anarchy

Look, it says right in the etymology that it refers to "order without power", which is what I said it was. Order is the opposite of chaos. In fact the motto of anarchism is «l'anarchie, c'est l'ordre», which in English means "anarchy is order".

In theory... and that's a paradox. 

Anarchy doesn't mean order by the way. To have order, you have to have structure, which is absent in an anarchic state.

No, it's not. Catalonia and Western Ukraine had anarchist movements with a structure, until they were crushed by Franco's troops and the Soviet Union respectively.