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oniyide said:
Alkibiádēs said:
Let Square make expensive games that take forever to make with little return on their investment. If they're too dumb to see that the Japanese market has moved on from home consoles than that's their problem.

Think about it, a small company like Level-5 posts bigger profits than Square-Enix.

they broke even on release

Very frontloaded game. Never said they were going to lose money on FF XV anyway. I said they were getting little return on their investment. 

In the time it took Square to make FF XV, Gamefreak released like 8 mainline Pokémon games or something, all of which sold better than FF XV will.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
This is not the third party support Switch will get. I will finally be happy when people realize Switch will be successful without needing these titles. Some of these titles would be nice, but the console needs the hand held exclusives upgraded for the home experience, not the home games downgraded for a Switch experience.

It is not a loss to me because I never thought or expected the game to come to the console. People that think like I do are not disturbed by these comments because we know this game was not meant for Switch.

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okr said:
Okay, whatever. Bring FF 1-10+12, Dragon Quest 1-9, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana instead.

Honestly, that's a great idea. I think those old-school RPGs would be much more in line with Switch's modus operandi than something like Final Fantasy XV. The fact that the system is launching with I am Setsuna, which is essentially a love letter to Chrono Trigger, says a lot. I imagine Switch can be successful with a lot of little cuts rather than a large gash like FFXV.



Alkibiádēs said:
oniyide said:

they broke even on release

Very frontloaded game. Never said they were going to lose money on FF XV anyway. I said they were getting little return on their investment. 

In the time it took Square to make FF XV, Gamefreak released like 8 mainline Pokémon games or something, all of which sold better than FF XV will.

ok...if they already broke even and the game just came out, how are they going to get little return on their investment? Its just profit from here on out



oniyide said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Very frontloaded game. Never said they were going to lose money on FF XV anyway. I said they were getting little return on their investment. 

In the time it took Square to make FF XV, Gamefreak released like 8 mainline Pokémon games or something, all of which sold better than FF XV will.

ok...if they already broke even and the game just came out, how are they going to get little return on their investment? Its just profit from here on out

It doesn't exactly have great legs when you look at Japan, now does it?



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World of Final Fantasy would make more sense on Switch



oniyide said:
cliffhanger said:

yeah hypothetically speaking if it did release on switch and did bomb, im sure plenty of people would say that, but really would it be wrong? I think it definitely would be one reason. Just because a nintendo fan says something, doesnt mean its wrong.

I do however think it would have sold decently (not as good as PS4 though) because the nature of the game fits in well with Nintendo's games, and the protability aspect would help people choose it over PS4.

It would be a factor, but then I would have to ask why the sour grapes? If that is the reason then we all know its gonna happen so why even expect it on a system that you KNOW it will be downgraded. Heck those Wii U 3rd party games werent downgraded and they sold like sick (not just the western ones) Their not wrong but thats just one factor.

what is this "nature" I keep hearing about? Big budget expensive particle filled JRPGs? cause the only close equivalent is Xenoblade and its not like those games set the charts on fire. And i think people are putting way too much stock in portability. Maybe in Japan where they actually really give a damn about portables, but in the western world? Naw performance>portablilty. Hell its not evne that portable you still gottta put it in a bag

Coming up with reasons to explain a negative event is not necessarily sour grapes, we're just discussing it. Not really 'expecting' it, but hoping for games like these despite its downgrades as an option is reasonable. JRPGs fit well on nintendo systems because there are similar games already that do well, yes like xenoblade.

I happen to agree with you, because even though i prefer nintendo games, if FFXV did come out on swith i would still get it for PS4 because for me performance>portability, but thats not the case for everyone, especially Nintendo fans. I think youre understocking portability.



oniyide said:
World of Final Fantasy would make more sense on Switch

Nobody wants to buy that game lol.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Ljink96 said:
m_csquare said:

I'm waiting for that obligatory "this game sucks anyway. Nobody would buy this game on nintendo console" response

 

"Incidentally, I think that Switch would be really cool if it could run Android apps on its portable screen…" I agree with you on this matter, mr tabata

Nintendo fans would buy this though... FF started on Nintendo after all. They'd buy it over CoD and Mass Effect, I'm sure. It just fits Nintendo's demographic more.

The last time a proper Final Fantasy was on a Nintendo home console was in 1994 on the SNES. 23 years ago. Nintendo's demographic has switched massively, and the only games that sell well on Nintendo are the mainstays (e.g. Super Mario, Zelda, Smash, etc). So, "it started on Nintendo" doesn't hold water. I guarantee you the crowd that plays CoD and Mass Effect would be more likely to play FFXV than the Mario and Zelda crowd. 



Alkibiádēs said:
oniyide said:
World of Final Fantasy would make more sense on Switch

Nobody wants to buy that game lol.

I do.  Iwll buy for PS4, tho. I expect other unique titles for NS.



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