The best primary and secondary schools in the world are private schools which are usually boarding schools, I don't understand the animosity towards private schools ...

I believe the problem isn't with schools (considering the funding public schools get they should be able to easily afford college level texts) but the problem lies in american students who use so much more yet don't produce results up to match with each asian countries ...

No offense, but you just destroyed any and all credibility you have with this statement. You just responded to my comment about charter schools being free with vouchers for private schools, and therefore prove you DO NOT know what a charter school is and should drop this conversation immediately.

C H A R T E R  S C H O O L S != P R I V A T E  S C H O O L S

Please research the topic before trying to rile other people up.

That's not what's happening here. 

See my post above. You think they are bribing senators like Rubio with money for milk and cookies? 

No. In the USA, education is becoming increasingly a for-profit big business. Huge business actually. Billions of dollars of profit to be made. By gutting the public school system and forcing people to have to pay for even elementary to high school, there are lobbyist groups that are backing DeVos that stand to make billions of dollars. 

Just like the US college system, in which to get a decent degree, most kids end up going into monstrous debt that are paying off until their 30s in many cases, and that debt carries interest charges which equate to huge profit for someone. 

tagging. looks like lots of fun.

The US spends a total of at least around $11700 on average for each student! That's enough to fund a year in university but the kicker here is we're doing it for 12 years instead of 4 ... (If anything I think we need to cut school funding and focus on the academic essentials. That means gutting gyms, the humanities, the arts, maybe some other extracurriculars, social sciences, and remedial level classes.) 

The problem isn't funding, the problem is that the US has bad curriculum and low quality students. Emulating the model that east asians use is the best bet since it's their style is the most cost efficient and it produces results. 

There's lot's of affordable colleges in the US, kids need to stop fantasizing about getting into the Ivy Leagues or similar and you wouldn't have to worry so much about debt if you picked the right field of study LOL ...

DeVos shouldn't have this position... not because she's not qualified for it, but because the Department of Education should be closed permanently, like so many of the failing school systems and education programs it oversees. It was created in the waning days of the Carter administration and just adds yet another layer of wasteful bureaucratic spending. How did we ever get along without the DoE prior to 1980?

The thing is none of this is about the education system, really. 

Like what the hell is a person like DeVos even interested in a relatievly benign post like secretary of education so much so that she's willing to bribe senators to vote for her? 

This is about money, plain and simple. There are people who see a big market in charging money for elementary to high school, why not, colleges make a fortune. 

Imagine how much money could be made for a select few if you gut public education so badly that "avearge Americans" feel like they have to pay for charter/private schools. Big, big, big money. 

And for the parents that can't afford private/charter schools -- too fucking bad for you.  Why suck people dry for education just when they're 18 when you can start to bleed them dry right from 1st grade. It's smart business actually. Completely unethical and morally gross of course, but smart business and typical dirty politics. 

Indeed, people keep wanting more money thrown at education with no results. If Better DeVos supports charter schools and better school choice, then I have to support her by default.

But I'm not sure what the solution to the homeless is. Especially when many of them seem to be mentally ill, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc. In a lot of cases they need to help themselves before we can help them.

But its not just Trump supporters that support school choice and charter schools.

Lets be frank, people support this because public school aren't always doing a great job.

But we could take a lot of money from public school, tell them to create a better curriculum that focuses on subjects that actually matter like math and english, and potentially get better results. We keep pouring money into public education with no results.

Frankly, a lot of private schools cost significantly less than the 11K we spend to educate kids in public school. So if people could take that money to the school of their choice, great.