I know this could get me in trouble but Ummm so I visit Neogaf OT for news daily but ever since the election, it turn into shit full of left party echochamber.

Just wanna ask if the same is happening here? I think opinions are cool no matter how different they are. That has always been the point of a forum and its just sad that neogaf is turning to opposite of that. It's like a hive and just causes the other party not to discuss meaningful conversations with that group.

I'm a foreigner btw.

It was like that before the election, too. Quite a few years before, actually. Then it spilled over to gaming side, and I left.

All forums get to be like that as people who are around for longer seek to make it a comfort zone for their own ideas. Even mods get wrapped up in it. I don't think its intentional. But the hive mind concept is real. Even here, you know their is a hive. I think the best way to deal with it is never surrender your ability to speak your mind and to be open-minded. When any type of minority takes hold and starts forcing others to see their things their way, you have the standard forum hive mind. It is here, its on GAF and other sites too. Most sites really. Some people only go online to perpetuate their mindset.

Edit:  By minority I mean any group that is a portion of the whole, but wants to assimulate the whole at all costs.  I'm not talking about racial or religious or gender minorities.  I am talking  about any idea group.  Because there are few real group thought ideas that encapulate all of us.   I hope this makes sense. 

Yeah im aware of that but its been really bad this year like its turning people off. I know vgchartz is a competition for neogaf but sometimes I get news from there as its the closest to a complete gaming web forum as it can be but... they really need to clean up the forum and set rules to avoid people from shunning other people's opinions. I basically can't tell anymore if they are trying to lose the next elections. The anonymity from the internet has clearly deranged some of people's communication skills. It starts with listening....or reading perhaps.

This place is pretty tolerant of all political opinions. Gamespot is also quite good for being tolerant, although the quality of debate isn't that high. But they did a poll during the 2016 election and found out that their audience was actually exactly 50:50 Clinton:Trump supporters. Very rare to find equilibrium like that.

Echo chambers seem to happen naturally most of the time though. When it's around 70:30 for a particular opinion, the 70% still vaguely respect and are polite to the 30%. When it passes some invisible critical mass at around 75-80%, the majority suddenly stop respecting disagreement and start interpreting it as a problem that needs to be stopped. It's a bizarre defect in human psychology. A lot of people are seduced by a false-consensus. I don't know why. Maybe because it allows you to stop thinking about tough issues.

Neogaf, on the other hand, have deliberately engineered their echo chamber. They've been banning people for having the "wrong opinions" for about 5 years now. It means any political debate they have is essentially just a series of self-reinforcing buzzwords and slogans that essentially operate as a subconscious label for "I don't have to argue this issue anymore cos I know I'm right".

P.S. You're on the internet. Everyone is a foreigner.

This. Even if you remove the component of identity, all it seems to do is allow for a larger margin on which ideas should be discussed. But, once the hive mind sets in, it takes a mammoth effort to stop it from truly taking over.

Case in point: 4chan /pol/ (I can't use 8chan /pol/ because it's still a cesspit of chaos and brit/pol/ threads)

Neogaf is like a human test laboratory on collective behaviour.

i identify as a neo antifemale, my political views could be described as anarcho-fascist,
am i a cool opinion?

This forum generally has more right-wingers and centrists. The only leftists here that I can think of are WolfPackN64 and I.

I guess this is about america? Because i've always been a left-wing defender by principle. But i'm not on the inside of everything on US politics. But, i can say Trump was a massive mistake.