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Back when the NX wasn't revealed to exist, Kimishima (the current president of Nintendo) stated that he was skeptical about the Wii U since it was revealed. Of course, he was criticized by people, and was challenged to create a console that would be good. After all, there is no point in criticizing if you cannot create anything better, right?

Quite some time has passed since then, and we know almost everything about the Switch. What are your thoughts now on Kimishima's image of Nintendo?

 

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He believes the Switch will sell at Wii-levels. I don't think he has both feet on the ground and he's bland as heck (at least from the conference) He looks like just another suit.



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Well, it's hard to comment because Switch really isn't his work, but Iwata's.
What may be his work is how they will make Switch relevant: games and HW revisions/iterations.

Personally, i still believe that making just a single piece of HW instead of two (HW and HH) might bring less revenue.
Let's see how things go.



Swiitch is Iwata's legacy. I doubt we'll ever see Kimishima's actual vision for Nintendo since his replacement is on the horizon.



DélioPT said:
Well, it's hard to comment because Switch really isn't his work, but Iwata's.
What may be his work is how they will make Switch relevant: games and HW revisions/iterations.

Personally, i still believe that making just a single piece of HW instead of two (HW and HH) might bring less revenue.
Let's see how things go.

That's a good point I haven't read about before. The benefit of the Switch is all development teams working on one, single platform, making dev time and costs more efficient (and different studios can help each other out more). 

But what you say is pretty interesting. By selling Wii U and 3DS, Nintendo was making $450 in hardware and $100 in software revenue. With only one system and one type of game (as in, no more handheld MK and console MK, for example), they potentially make a lot less money, even by selling the same amount of systems and games... dude, you made me think.



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Slarvax said:
DélioPT said:
Well, it's hard to comment because Switch really isn't his work, but Iwata's.
What may be his work is how they will make Switch relevant: games and HW revisions/iterations.

Personally, i still believe that making just a single piece of HW instead of two (HW and HH) might bring less revenue.
Let's see how things go.

That's a good point I haven't read about before. The benefit of the Switch is all development teams working on one, single platform, making dev time and costs more efficient (and different studios can help each other out more). 

But what you say is pretty interesting. By selling Wii U and 3DS, Nintendo was making $450 in hardware and $100 in software revenue. With only one system and one type of game (as in, no more handheld MK and console MK, for example), they potentially make a lot less money, even by selling the same amount of systems and games... dude, you made me think.

Revenue isn't important. Profit is. And as I understand it, even with Nintendo, hardware doesn't have too much of a profit margin. Software is where the money is. 

That said, the Switch can totally take on different form factors with different functions. I believe Iwata even said that was something being considered with Switch.



Slarvax said:
DélioPT said:
Well, it's hard to comment because Switch really isn't his work, but Iwata's.
What may be his work is how they will make Switch relevant: games and HW revisions/iterations.

Personally, i still believe that making just a single piece of HW instead of two (HW and HH) might bring less revenue.
Let's see how things go.

That's a good point I haven't read about before. The benefit of the Switch is all development teams working on one, single platform, making dev time and costs more efficient (and different studios can help each other out more). 

But what you say is pretty interesting. By selling Wii U and 3DS, Nintendo was making $450 in hardware and $100 in software revenue. With only one system and one type of game (as in, no more handheld MK and console MK, for example), they potentially make a lot less money, even by selling the same amount of systems and games... dude, you made me think.

on the other hand, they had essentially no extra pheripherals. Most people had 2-4 wiimotes (or opted for a cheap 3rd party one), which made the Wii U pro controller the only extra accessories. they'll definitely make money from joycons/docks/pro controllers.

 

Also, they sold the Wii U at a loss. that isn't a concern anymore. Add in the fact that games won't take as long to make, and a lot of the issues aren't issues anymore. Instead of making 2 mario karts, they can focus on making one only that is higher quality



Way too premature to comment on this. Once the Switch has had some time on the market, we'll be in a better position to assess the situation.



twintail said:
he said switch will sell like the Wii.

either he knows something we don't or he is living in some fantasy land. I think the latter. so you can guess what I think of him.

he also said he thought wiiu would sell as well as the wii, i.e. definitely fantasy land.



NATO said:
twintail said:
he said switch will sell like the Wii.

either he knows something we don't or he is living in some fantasy land. I think the latter. so you can guess what I think of him.

he also said he thought wiiu would sell as well as the wii, i.e. definitely fantasy land.

When did he say that? Link?