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NEW POLL. What do you think of Horizon Zero dawn so far?

I love it, it's brilliant. 307 71.23%
 
It's good, above average. 38 8.82%
 
Eh, mediocre. 16 3.71%
 
it's bad. below average. 3 0.70%
 
It's terrible, so disopointed. 4 0.93%
 
Yet to tell/no opinion/don't own it. ..... 63 14.62%
 
Total:431
CGI-Quality said:
mjk45 said:

No that's not what I'm saying, no where have I said anything like that, I stated that I agreed with you about comparing software, my point of difference is a pretty simple one " I believe that  if the games that are being compared  happen to be on the same platform then that should make the  comparison more straight forward ", that isn't advocating that it's the only way to make those comparisons, and like I said does it really matter since most people seem to judge ageing   on their own personal aesthetics

Said anything like what?

I realize we mostly agree and there may be something lost in translation. It was mainly John's assessment that I wasn't in tune with.

Sorry that was my fault When I typed my reply I was looking at the wrong quote I have re edited it and tried to explain where i feel both of us  are coming from , let me know if you feel I'm close.



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CGI-Quality said:
mjk45 said:

My reason would be because there is a Metro exodus on PS4 to compare with Horizon and using PC rather than the  PS4 game  leads us  to this question,  if we need to use the PC version to make the point, then  how would a  hypothetical PC Horizon  compare using what we can deduce from the differences between the PS4 Metro and the PC version as a rough guide.

 You can compare Horizon to the PS4 version, but that doesn’t change that it looks much better on a platform that exists now and we’re talking about coming back to games years down the line. Exodus (PC), like Horizon, is part of that. And PC is always compared to console, so claiming that this is now, somehow, unfair, is silly.

 

CGI-Quality said:
mjk45 said:

Your using the PC version is fine in the context of rereading Johns first quote I was thrown off when he later suggested it was an unfair comparison thinking he must have never mentioned the PC version when in fact he was the one who brought it up so it was fair game, I agree with you about comparing software, my argument isn't with comparing versions against one another, hell  it's core to digital foundries existence and helps us with choice, while John opened this particular discourse up  to Metro  PC , I still feel no matter how silly you may think it is, if you are comparing different games in respect to how they may have aged using the same platform if available gives a more even view toward that end, you can cut back somewhat on the wriggle room, then again how much does any of this matter when most people talk of aging are really mostly talking about ascetics and how they view the games appearance so it is truly in the eye of the beholder.

I get what you’re saying, but let’s take a different approach. When thinking back to this gen, I’m going to remember it as a package (like every other gen). 

Also, and in fairness, we compared Horizon to 2017 PC releases (and if the graphics thread was anything to go on, people felt it took the year, even with graphical juggernauts like Battlefront II out in the wild). 

Just another way to gauge it. ;p

Perhaps you are right, CGI and maybe it is fair but one thing is for sure, everything this gen has been playable on hardware at a similar price to one of the ps4's models price at release, Metro won't and on top of that it adds tech that consoles have never seen before. I'd count all RTX games out this gen alone simply for the console not having a chance to compete with that regardless of the price but I also do agree with some of your points and mjk45 makes a great point about games having to parity OG consoles. Hmm, it's a tough one but for me personally, I think it's time to draw the line at RTX. We weren't comparing Crisis to PS2 games or are currently comparing pro consoles to switch and RTX feels like that natural line in the sand. 

Still, perhaps you are right and there shouldn't be a line in the sand but it really feels like punching down. 



 

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John2290 said:
CGI-Quality said:

 You can compare Horizon to the PS4 version, but that doesn’t change that it looks much better on a platform that exists now and we’re talking about coming back to games years down the line. Exodus (PC), like Horizon, is part of that. And PC is always compared to console, so claiming that this is now, somehow, unfair, is silly.

 

CGI-Quality said:

I get what you’re saying, but let’s take a different approach. When thinking back to this gen, I’m going to remember it as a package (like every other gen). 

Also, and in fairness, we compared Horizon to 2017 PC releases (and if the graphics thread was anything to go on, people felt it took the year, even with graphical juggernauts like Battlefront II out in the wild). 

Just another way to gauge it. ;p

Perhaps you are right, CGI and maybe it is fair but one thing is for sure, everything this gen has been playable on hardware at a similar price to one of the ps4's models price at release, Metro won't and on top of that it adds tech that consoles have never seen before. I'd count all RTX games out this gen alone simply for the console not having a chance to compete with that regardless of the price but I also do agree with some of your points and mjk45 makes a great point about games having to parity OG consoles. Hmm, it's a tough one but for me personally, I think it's time to draw the line at RTX. We weren't comparing Crisis to PS2 games or are currently comparing pro consoles to switch and RTX feels like that natural line in the sand. 

Still, perhaps you are right and there shouldn't be a line in the sand but it really feels like punching down. 

We were comparing Crysis to PS3 games because they released during the same period. No one was comparing it to PS2 games. And, actually, quite a few multiplatform games have been compared between the Switch and Pro consoles. 

Still, many of the pics I posted of Metro in the graphics topic don’t even have RTX on (I did that for a reason), but that’s very much besides the point. I will continue to compare it to games of this era (as will everyone else in this industry). No matter the price/graphical deficiencies, that’s the way it has always worked.



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

 

Perhaps you are right, CGI and maybe it is fair but one thing is for sure, everything this gen has been playable on hardware at a similar price to one of the ps4's models price at release, Metro won't and on top of that it adds tech that consoles have never seen before. I'd count all RTX games out this gen alone simply for the console not having a chance to compete with that regardless of the price but I also do agree with some of your points and mjk45 makes a great point about games having to parity OG consoles. Hmm, it's a tough one but for me personally, I think it's time to draw the line at RTX. We weren't comparing Crisis to PS2 games or are currently comparing pro consoles to switch and RTX feels like that natural line in the sand. 

Still, perhaps you are right and there shouldn't be a line in the sand but it really feels like punching down. 

We were comparing Crysis to PS3 games because they released during the same period. No one was comparing it to PS2 games. And, actually, quite a few multiplatform games have been compared between the Switch and Pro consoles. 

Still, many of the pics I posted of Metro in the graphics topic don’t even have RTX on (I did that for a reason), but that’s very much besides the point. I will continue to compare it to games of this era (as will everyone else in this industry). No matter the price/graphical deficiencies, that’s the way it has always worked.

 

 

Perhaps you are right, then Metro is indeed the thing to beat right now. I Still think Horizon will look better to the eye and cleaner in a decade or two looking back though :P hehe. Just my opinion. I am really excited to see Metro in 4k at RTX ultra, it looked mind blowing at 1440p with little RTX so I can only image but how much do you think the smaller 1440p monitor has to comparing it to console games on massive screens.



 

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John2290 said:
CGI-Quality said:

We were comparing Crysis to PS3 games because they released during the same period. No one was comparing it to PS2 games. And, actually, quite a few multiplatform games have been compared between the Switch and Pro consoles. 

Still, many of the pics I posted of Metro in the graphics topic don’t even have RTX on (I did that for a reason), but that’s very much besides the point. I will continue to compare it to games of this era (as will everyone else in this industry). No matter the price/graphical deficiencies, that’s the way it has always worked.

Perhaps you are right, then Metro is indeed the thing to beat right now. I Still think Horizon will look better to the eye and cleaner in a decade or two looking back though :P hehe. Just my opinion. I am really excited to see Metro in 4k at RTX ultra, it looked mind blowing at 1440p with little RTX so I can only image but how much do you think the smaller 1440p monitor has to comparing it to console games on massive screens.

Metro has some of the best IQ of any game to date (yes, better than Horizon, even @1440p). That 'clean' look is there. Factoring everything else in and the winner is clear to me. Just an overall better picture and much more true-to-life.



                                                                                                                                            

CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

Perhaps you are right, then Metro is indeed the thing to beat right now. I Still think Horizon will look better to the eye and cleaner in a decade or two looking back though :P hehe. Just my opinion. I am really excited to see Metro in 4k at RTX ultra, it looked mind blowing at 1440p with little RTX so I can only image but how much do you think the smaller 1440p monitor has to comparing it to console games on massive screens.

Metro has some of the best IQ of any game to date (yes, better than Horizon, even @1440p). That 'clean' look is there. Factoring everything else in and the winner is clear to me. Just an overall better picture and much more true-to-life.

Are you able to run RTX? If so are your able to max everything out, hair works included and what FPS.Do ya think the 9th gen consoles will have a chance of competing without ray tracing going forward or has the PC came on tech to stay ahead for a few years?



 

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-Android user, please be gentle with critique on my spelling.

John2290 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Metro has some of the best IQ of any game to date (yes, better than Horizon, even @1440p). That 'clean' look is there. Factoring everything else in and the winner is clear to me. Just an overall better picture and much more true-to-life.

Are you able to run RTX? If so are your able to max everything out, hair works included and what FPS.Do ya think the 9th gen consoles will have a chance of competing without ray tracing going forward or has the PC came on tech to stay ahead for a few years?

Will they compete? Sure. But, it will take a knockout punch to truly put it down. With RTX on, Metro is on another level and I'm glad I got to experience it. Still, some game on a next gen console should be able to top it, overall. It just may not be right away.



                                                                                                                                            

EricHiggin said:

 

WOW.   Pure art.    



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Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
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