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NEW POLL. What do you think of Horizon Zero dawn so far?

I love it, it's brilliant. 308 71.13%
 
It's good, above average. 38 8.78%
 
Eh, mediocre. 16 3.70%
 
it's bad. below average. 3 0.69%
 
It's terrible, so disopointed. 5 1.15%
 
Yet to tell/no opinion/don't own it. ..... 63 14.55%
 
Total:433
mjk45 said:
EricHiggin said:

Well with SIE cracking down on 'toxic masculinity' and making sure woman aren't too realistic, I don't see that ever coming to pass. Doesn't stop the imagination though I guess.

 Me neither it was an aside to your European style movies, talking of crackdowns   Should Sony making sure women aren't too realistic be making sure they are more realistic like the Alyx Vances and Aloy's of the gaming world. gaming is no longer if it ever was the domain of testosterone laden teenage boys, and you can have sexy women without them being sexualised, there is room for large breasted women showing off their midriffs and cleavage , it's just that it's become a lazy staple, where you have scenarios that show  a person dressed in not much more than a bikini moving through a freezing winter landscape  while a complaining  about how cold it is.

I want more characters like those mentioned by name but I want the games themselves dictate how they will be portrayed both emotionally as well as physical,rather than some PC correct mandate from above, because you have to be careful that the intent of making it harder for certain games that use titillation as the main selling point doesn't  create a splash across the whole sector, especially when it coming from above without much engagement with those at or near the splash point . gee I rambled on there instead of talking pictures sorry about that.

For me personally, it just needs to fit the type of game and story line. If the game is about chicks in bikini's playing sports, with realistic or overblown physics, I don't really see the problem as long as there aren't any 'wardrobe malfunctions' in game, and make sure it's rated properly.

In terms of HZD, trying to 'pimp out' Aloy by creating Miami Beach Dawn, would be a horrible decision. They could potentially add romance into the story somewhere, but it's the kind of game where the door would close behind them and the screen would fade to black.

The devs no doubt know what kind of audience they are after for their games and straying from that initial vision and narrative will lose them fans. I don't see why SIE should be sticking their nose into those kind of decisions, aside from their own first party if they wish, and maybe those select few third party games that obliterate the finest of lines, if they exist.



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John2290 said:
mjk45 said:

 Me neither it was an aside to your European style movies, talking of crackdowns   Should Sony making sure women aren't too realistic be making sure they are more realistic like the Alyx Vances and Aloy's of the gaming world. gaming is no longer if it ever was the domain of testosterone laden teenage boys, and you can have sexy women without them being sexualised, there is room for large breasted women showing of their midriffs and cleavage it's just that it's become a lazy staple, where you have scenarios that show  a person dressed in not much more than a bikini moving through a freezing winter landscape  while a complaining  about how cold it is.

I want more characters like those mentioned but I want the games to dictate how they will be portrayed both emotionally as well as physical rather than some PC mandate from above because you have to be careful that the intent of making it harder for certain games that use titillation as the main selling point of their games doesn't  create a splash across .the whole sector when it coming from above without much engagement with those at or near he splash point' gee I rambled on there instead of talking pictures sorry about that.

Tits and ass, Mjk45, tits and ass! And we want it now! 

Honestly nothing wrong with making video game characters beautiful or above the reality, it's escapism and it also helps drive artistic motivation. Devs spend years of their lives with these characters and libido is a powerful force for creativity, ending in a finer and better product all around. Making game character ugly for the sake of it is just plain ridiculous for the consumer and the creators and serves only those who don't buy or play games and instead complain about them on social media who somehow end up as a force in our hobby. 

I think you me and Eric are all in agreement that tits and ass is ok but it has to fit the game and I don't think anyone supports ugly for ugly sake or the opposite normality seems a good middle ground that sees all types.

alyx vance and aloy are by no means ugly but they fit the bill for their particular games, now dead or alive featuring fighting nuns in robes and habits is just not right.

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mjk45 said:
John2290 said:

Tits and ass, Mjk45, tits and ass! And we want it now! 

Honestly nothing wrong with making video game characters beautiful or above the reality, it's escapism and it also helps drive artistic motivation. Devs spend years of their lives with these characters and libido is a powerful force for creativity, ending in a finer and better product all around. Making game character ugly for the sake of it is just plain ridiculous for the consumer and the creators and serves only those who don't buy or play games and instead complain about them on social media who somehow end up as a force in our hobby. 

I think you me and Eric are all in agreement that tits and ass is ok but it has to fit the game and I don't think anyone supports ugly for ugly sake or the opposite normality seems a good middle ground that sees all types.

alyx vance and aloy are by no means ugly but they fit the bill for their particular games, now dead or alive featuring fighting nuns in robes and habits is just not right.

At least allow players to collect materials and craft some sunscreen am I right?



John2290 said:
EricHiggin said:

At least allow players to collect materials and craft some sunscreen am I right?

I just don't understand why people are saying A lot is anything less than fucking gorgeous? Maybe she doesn't come along well in pics or some shit but man, my dick was tingling when I played this game, more than once. 

Chick is fine, especially that body.

No one's saying that, what is being said is you can have more naturalistic features and clothing and exude beauty.  take Aloy since you find her hot  this is a girl with freckles and a fairly  normal physique who  appeals to many people showing that you don't need to rely on cookie cutter stereotypes to exude sex appeal, One of my favorite characters is Alyx Vance someone  being smart capable and independent having a sense of humour, but has faults all these traits along with her looks I find extremely sexy,  but it would be a surprise if she turned up in a bikini playing volleyball, but the opposite happening wouldn't be, all body types are fine that should never be the issue the issue is the over prevalence of one type.



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John2290 said:
mjk45 said:

No one's saying that, what is being said is you can have more naturalistic features and clothing and exude beauty.  take Aloy since you find her hot  this is a girl with freckles and a fairly  normal physique who  appeals to many people showing that you don't need to rely on cookie cutter stereotypes to exude sex appeal, One of my favorite characters is Alyx Vance someone  being smart capable and independent having a sense of humour, but has faults all these traits along with her looks I find extremely sexy,  but it would be a surprise if she turned up in a bikini playing volleyball, but the opposite happening wouldn't be, all body types are fine that should never be the issue the issue is the over prevalence of one type.

I get ya and it makes makes sense. Still, writing off characters in bikinis as non complex could be an issue too when you look at it so perhaps we shouldn't judge on looks at any rate and what's not to say, if after half Life 3 Gordon and Alex ended up in the a tropical island and Alex and he were picking ass, bikinis and all.

Again, I get what ya mean and I'm all for properly outfitted characters and presenting them as reflected in the writing and world and thereis no point making a character that looks good and is shallow but their is nothing to say a character can't be complex, deep and loveable all the while having size F breasts and living the nudist life. Most people would consider Garalt a complex character and he tries to get his shirt off as often as he can, scars and all and in TW3 he is designed to be far better looking than the scoure material should allow. If you're going to define a character by how they are presented before they have a chance to redeem themselves then it's probably q problem that starts with you, would Alex Vance be any lesser of a character if she wore a skimpy outfit and had a pair of fake tits. Nah.

A book and it's cover and all that.

I agree a book and it's cover and all that, but they don't need to use the same cover, over and over  I don't mind a book with no cover. too your Alyx question yes and no if she was changed to become that character then yes, if she  had that figure from the outset then that's fine  as long as her other characteristics remained.

Last edited by mjk45 - on 26 February 2019

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EricHiggin said:

 

She never stops letting me gasp !   



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

EricHiggin said:

really love her look and the action in the top pic.



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mjk45 said:
EricHiggin said:

really love her look and the action in the top pic.

Is it due to her 'focus'?