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NEW POLL. What do you think of Horizon Zero dawn so far?

I love it, it's brilliant.
It's good, above average.
Eh, mediocre.
it's bad. below average.
It's terrible, so disopointed.
Yet to tell/no opinion/don't own it. .....
vivster said:
John2290 said:

Huh? Are you saying that is not one of the best looking games there is (Objectively). The same deal here as with UC4, the numbers and stats don't mean bollach against what your eyes can see and I'm seeing pure beauty and subjectively I think it may even surpass UC4 for me as the art style which is like concept art meets reality meets fresco meets the top trending digital art on deviant art and it is implemented so nicely.

And they say pc gamers are obsessed with graphics.

It could be 8k with 3TB worth of high quality textures and it would still run like shit. Not being able to use a mouse for this shooter is just the cherry on top.

Yes, it is a crime that this game, like all good console exclusive games, is confined on a single bad platform with no choice whatsoever.

If you can't use a controller to shoot then you just lack practice. Also, you'll be using a mouse for traversal and riding mounts?



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So it let you mess with it as you wish to take a shot?
That's pretty cool.

vivster said:
John2290 said:

Huh? Are you saying that is not one of the best looking games there is (Objectively). The same deal here as with UC4, the numbers and stats don't mean bollach against what your eyes can see and I'm seeing pure beauty and subjectively I think it may even surpass UC4 for me as the art style which is like concept art meets reality meets fresco meets the top trending digital art on deviant art and it is implemented so nicely.

And they say pc gamers are obsessed with graphics.

It could be 8k with 3TB worth of high quality textures and it would still run like shit. Not being able to use a mouse for this shooter is just the cherry on top.

Yes, it is a crime that this game, like all good console exclusive games, is confined on a single bad platform with no choice whatsoever.

No, It is not nor is this a simple shooter and no this would not work well with mouse and keyboard...at all! It is a game made for consoles by people who make games for consoles. I could say it is a crime that there are no 4x games nor many of the RTS games but I would not want to play them anywhere else than my laptop anyhow. 

You seem to be just out to start an argument with PS4 user but I am not going to bite the hook hidden in your bait. I will say this however, if you are salty that a game can, look better, run just as smooth and have a great source of funding and support as to make the game looks better than anything else (viewed at a reasonabe distance from the screen) on PC on hardware that you put double or triple that cost and while newer games will gradually get worse performance unless you put in more money on upgrades while newer games on the ps4 will gradually get better and better looking. 

Keep obsessing about numbers, graphics settings and fps while the rest of us enjoy better looking games on our 400 ps4 pro.



BraLoD said:
So it let you mess with it as you wish to take a shot?
That's pretty cool.

It is like having access to the engine...dynamic day night cycle sliders! It's more than cool. :D



holly fuck, that photo mode. this game looks SO good. the pictures from photo mode will be glorious

 The One and Only

VizionEck

bananaking21 said:
holly fuck, that photo mode. this game looks SO good. the pictures from photo mode will be glorious

Finally, someone gets it.



So like gt sports right?

m_csquare said:
So like gt sports right?

Yup, But without the cars in a brilliant high art version of a fictional future with one of the sexiest protagonist in games ever. 



John2290 said:
vivster said:

And they say pc gamers are obsessed with graphics.

It could be 8k with 3TB worth of high quality textures and it would still run like shit. Not being able to use a mouse for this shooter is just the cherry on top.

Yes, it is a crime that this game, like all good console exclusive games, is confined on a single bad platform with no choice whatsoever.

No, It is not nor is this a simple shooter and no this would not work well with mouse and keyboard...at all! It is a game made for consoles by people who make games for consoles. I could say it is a crime that there are no 4x games nor many of the RTS games but I would not want to play them anywhere else than my laptop anyhow. 

You seem to be just out to start an argument with PS4 user but I am not going to bite the hook hidden in your bait. I will say this however, if you are salty that a game can, look better, run just as smooth and have a great source of funding and support as to make the game looks better than anything else (viewed at a reasonabe distance from the screen) on PC on hardware that you put double or triple that cost and while newer games will gradually get worse performance unless you put in more money on upgrades while newer games on the ps4 will gradually get better and better looking. 

Keep obsessing about numbers, graphics settings and fps while the rest of us enjoy better looking games on our 400 ps4 pro.

This has nothing to do with PS4, it's a problem concerning all consoles. There is simply zero choice. No choice in peripherals, not even something as simple as being able to decide between framerate and useless graphic shine.

Those are the only two simple things I would like to have. But even that tiny bit of choice is not allowed on consoles. That's what makes it bad. Exclusivity is bad, no choices are an inherently bad thing for everyone.

There is no such thing as "a console game" or "a pc game". That line is only separated by the peripherals used. There is nothing that forbids developers to to offer choices, they do it for PC after all. It all comes down to how extremely restricted consoles are. Why are they so restricted? Because it makes it easier/cheaper for platform owners and developers. And they do all this on the back of the consumer since no choice is always a detriment.

I am very salty in this particular instance because the game looks really fun but I will not be able to enjoy it because it doesn't even give me the bare minimum of choice. It is a fast paced action game that requires precise and fast aiming. I will certainly not enjoy this on a controller and certainly not at 30fps. Much like I couldn't get past Bayonetta 2 because a fast paced game that drops below 30fps constantly is simply not enjoyable.

It's great that you can live with being forced to play in a very restricted environment, that doesn't make it ok or even laudable. Try to imagine that you are forced to play this game with a guitar hero controller at 5 fps. That's how it is for people like me. I doubt you would be able to enjoy the game no matter how pretty it is.



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vivster said:
John2290 said:

No, It is not nor is this a simple shooter and no this would not work well with mouse and keyboard...at all! It is a game made for consoles by people who make games for consoles. I could say it is a crime that there are no 4x games nor many of the RTS games but I would not want to play them anywhere else than my laptop anyhow. 

You seem to be just out to start an argument with PS4 user but I am not going to bite the hook hidden in your bait. I will say this however, if you are salty that a game can, look better, run just as smooth and have a great source of funding and support as to make the game looks better than anything else (viewed at a reasonabe distance from the screen) on PC on hardware that you put double or triple that cost and while newer games will gradually get worse performance unless you put in more money on upgrades while newer games on the ps4 will gradually get better and better looking. 

Keep obsessing about numbers, graphics settings and fps while the rest of us enjoy better looking games on our 400 ps4 pro.

This has nothing to do with PS4, it's a problem concerning all consoles. There is simply zero choice. No choice in peripherals, not even something as simple as being able to decide between framerate and useless graphic shine.

Those are the only two simple things I would like to have. But even that tiny bit of choice is not allowed on consoles. That's what makes it bad. Exclusivity is bad, no choices are an inherently bad thing for everyone.

There is no such thing as "a console game" or "a pc game". That line is only separated by the peripherals used. There is nothing that forbids developers to to offer choices, they do it for PC after all. It all comes down to how extremely restricted consoles are. Why are they so restricted? Because it makes it easier/cheaper for platform owners and developers. And they do all this on the back of the consumer since no choice is always a detriment.

I am very salty in this particular instance because the game looks really fun but I will not be able to enjoy it because it doesn't even give me the bare minimum of choice. It is a fast paced action game that requires precise and fast aiming. I will certainly not enjoy this on a controller and certainly not at 30fps. Much like I couldn't get past Bayonetta 2 because a fast paced game that drops below 30fps constantly is simply not enjoyable.

It's great that you can live with being forced to play in a very restricted environment, that doesn't make it ok or even laudable. Try to imagine that you are forced to play this game with a guitar hero controller at 5 fps. That's how it is for people like me. I doubt you would be able to enjoy the game no matter how pretty it is.

1. On ps4 you can choose between res settings and performance. 

2. You are salty about a game that looks fun that 50+ million and counting have the ability to play it...? That's on you. If you are that anal about fps and then you probably can't enjoy games for the gameplay and prefer to obsess over settings. Why not go all in and grab a 5000 quid rig.

3. You guitar hero scenario makes no sense and is just petty.