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Our message to the people on the ban list: "You can't come here for 90 days, but we can still bomb the shit out of your country!"

Also, has anyone else noticed how pointless and politically motivated that list is. Notice that Saudi Arabia is not on the list, even though the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and there is a lot of deep resentment for the US having a base there. That's because they're our buddies. We can't put them on a ban list even though it would make a hell of a lot more sense than a country like Iran. In fact, how many Americans have been killed by Iranians?



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I think this is important because people are claiming the ban has something to do with trumps businesses when in fact all trump did was threw Syria on the list and put it into play.



I still don't have a formed opinion on this matter but this guy seems to bring some information that should be discussed while on this subject.

What do you guys think?



haqqaton said:

I still don't have a formed opinion on this matter but this guy seems to bring some information that should be discussed while on this subject.

What do you guys think?

People are going to dismiss his video because of his association with Info Wars. However, there are people of the left who are also not falling for the "muslim ban' narrative, such as Jimmy Dore of The Young Turks.





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Trump and Obama are both very authoritarian, and they both occupy the same position, so it's not surprising at all that they have very similar policies. Republicans and Democrats are much closer to each other than people like to admit.



Aura7541 said:

People are going to dismiss his video because of his association with Info Wars. However, there are people of the left who are also not falling for the "muslim ban' narrative, such as Jimmy Dore of The Young Turks.

Interesting. There's too much disinformation on the media nowadays. We really must to read/watch the same fact from different sources to get a better picture of it.

Thanks for the video.



What are you accusing Obama of, making a list? If One person makes a list of people That owe me money and a serial killer decides to use the list as targets without the first knowing, the first person isn't a murderer.



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Osama Bin Laden was a born Saudi. His family are all Saudi nationals.

Ibn Tamiyya and his Salafi group come from Saudi and the Saudi family are staunch supporters, followers and financiers of the movement.

The only real reason why Saudi has been left off the list is because Saudi is seen as an ally. Saudi ensures it keeps the other Arab nations in flux by funding other groups and themselves to attack them, directly or indirectly.



VGPolyglot said:
Trump and Obama are both very authoritarian, and they both occupy the same position, so it's not surprising at all that they have very similar policies. Republicans and Democrats are much closer to each other than people like to admit.

There's some truth to this. Both aren't very authoritarian but both do have many of the same positions. Much of what Trump is proposing currrently were ideas Obama wanted to implement but were met with opposition. For instance, Obama wanted to tax businesses that send jobs overseas but was met with vehement backlash from right-wing voters who called it excessive taxation and anti-capitalism. Or how Obama bailed out the auto industry and was chastised for doing so yet Trump saved 700 jobs by giving Carrier $7 million and they call him a genius. But inversely, liberals loved it when Obama was issuing executive orders from the Oval Office now they can't stand when Trump is doing it. Both sides are full of sh!t. Even though the sh!t smells differently it's still sh!t.



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