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This seems like a strange position to take. Political threads, by their nature, often devolve into total BS. To moderate that out of existence eliminates the whole point of the threads.

I propose another solution: eliminate politic threads from this gaming site.



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VGPolyglot said:
Arminillo said:

I dont see whats wrong with a 90 day ban. Theres only seven or so users that would be affected and we can give special exclusion to those who hold minority views.

So, would I be one of those seven, or would I not? How would that be determined?

Diversity of views isn't a problem. The way certain people choose to express them is a problem.  You've been here 4 years and have no moderations.  That doesn't happen by accident.



FloatingWaffles said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Shaming and ridicule is the only way to combat "alternative facts". When the president can deny photographic evidence of his inauguration and he can deny scientific evidence of global warming. This emboldens many people. You cannot regulate or moderate them, you must ridicule them, shame him back into the Shadows.

You want people to be shamed or ridiculed just because they choose to believe something else than you? 

In this case you're saying that you think what they believe isn't true, where as from their perspective what you're saying isn't true either, even if there is 'facts' that you're saying that prove your case, those people may not believe those facts or consider them to be wrong. It goes both ways. 

If what you're saying is that they shouldn't blindly believe what anyone says then sure, I can agree with that. Nobody should ever blindly agree with what someone says even if they look up to them or support them. 

But ridiculing and shaming isn't the way to go about opening someone up to discussing it or trying to have a reasonable discussion about the topic. What incentive would someone ever have for looking at your point of view on something when all you've done is attack them? That will only make someone double down on what they think because people are attacking them for it. It's attitudes like that which are why Trump won.

Yes, my tact is Harsh. But we need critical thinking which requires us to agree on an Arbiter of facts. Whether that be Dow Jones Industrial Average or photos of the mall during inaugurations. Neutrality is to blame for Trump's victory. When 99% of climatologist agree on a fact but 1% disagree our media treats that a 50/50. That is not science. I don't want to leave these decisions up to public opinion.



Zkuq said:

For people not wanting to see politics threads on the front page: I created a browser userscript for hiding politics threads on the front page back in November. All you need is a browser with userscript support and it should work. For example, Firefox + Greasemonkey works fine. For Chrome, I think you need some addon too. Anyway, you can get the script here. It should install by clicking the button that says 'Raw'. By default, it dims politics threads, but you can change it to fully hide them very easily (I made a 'relatively simple' configuration section, and that's the best that's possible with a userscript). A userscript is not exactly an ideal solution but hey, it works!

Uh, anyway. I agree that politics discussion needs some work here. It's by far the most hostile discussion environment on this site. I'm not sure I like the hiding idea myself because it's probably really going to kill all politics discussion, but other than that, it seems like a decent idea. I think it would be better to moderate politics discussions somehow better, but I'm not really sure how.

I got the script.  It doesn't hide them though. It just makes them a soft gray. The color of something that is "deactivated" (yet can still be clicked on).

Now when I look at the front page I can immediately go "eww" and I see half of it is taken up by politicsl as opposed to reading through the options and constantly seeing political threads.

So in that regard its nice.



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Bandorr said:
Zkuq said:

For people not wanting to see politics threads on the front page: I created a browser userscript for hiding politics threads on the front page back in November. All you need is a browser with userscript support and it should work. For example, Firefox + Greasemonkey works fine. For Chrome, I think you need some addon too. Anyway, you can get the script here. It should install by clicking the button that says 'Raw'. By default, it dims politics threads, but you can change it to fully hide them very easily (I made a 'relatively simple' configuration section, and that's the best that's possible with a userscript). A userscript is not exactly an ideal solution but hey, it works!

Uh, anyway. I agree that politics discussion needs some work here. It's by far the most hostile discussion environment on this site. I'm not sure I like the hiding idea myself because it's probably really going to kill all politics discussion, but other than that, it seems like a decent idea. I think it would be better to moderate politics discussions somehow better, but I'm not really sure how.

I got the script.  It doesn't hide them though. It just makes them a soft gray. The color of something that is "deactivated" (yet can still be clicked on).

Now when I look at the front page I can immediately go "eww" and I see half of it is taken up by politicsl as opposed to reading through the options and constantly seeing political threads.

So in that regard its nice.

You can modify it quite easily to fully hide them. I added a simple configuration section with instructions. Unfortunately there's no easy way to add settings to userscripts, so the best I could do was to add a simple configuration section to the script itself.



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Zkuq said:
Bandorr said:

I got the script.  It doesn't hide them though. It just makes them a soft gray. The color of something that is "deactivated" (yet can still be clicked on).

Now when I look at the front page I can immediately go "eww" and I see half of it is taken up by politicsl as opposed to reading through the options and constantly seeing political threads.

So in that regard its nice.

You can modify it quite easily to fully hide them. I added a simple configuration section with instructions. Unfortunately there's no easy way to add settings to userscripts, so the best I could do was to add a simple configuration section to the script itself.

i'll look into that, thanks.



  • Deadliest mass shooting by an individual in US history (10/01/2017)
  • Deadliest high school shooting in US history (02/14/2018)
  • Deadliest massacre of Jews in US history (10/27/2018)
  • Political assassination attempt of TWO former presidents(and 10+ other people)  (10/23/2018 - and beyond)

The other day a dude was " hail Hitler " " hail my fuhrer trump" , got banned for like a couple hours, a dude who more than once made racist comments, he was not joking.

In neogaf he would be permabanned probably.



 

ClassicGamingWizzz said:
The other day a dude was " hail Hitler " " hail my fuhrer trump" , got banned for like a couple hours, a dude who more than once made racist comments, he was not joking.

In neogaf he would be permabanned probably.

If we're talking about the same person, I think he was banned for a few days, and he admitted to joking. Perhaps it's a different person then?