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ktay95 said:
StarOcean said:
Just get rid of political topics in general. They're fucking awful. I mean, they're fun to mess with people in -but more often than not they turn into pools of shit. I've advocated the banning of political threads since forever and will until it happens.

At least take them off the front page, we've done it before to other threads. I didn't come to a gaming forum to see 1/4 of the threads be about Trump.

This was my exact thought today.



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RolStoppable said:
I don't think that harsher rules are needed. The ones we have need to be used, that should basically do the trick.

A lot of the controversy in political discussions stems from hypocritical behavior, so you start by bringing the banhammer down on them. Does it really matter if such people do it deliberately or because they honestly don't realize it? I'd say no, because it's disruptive to discussions either way. Someone who doesn't or can't respect the other side of an argument doesn't belong in such discussions.

Another important point is that people of a known political bias try to rally up other people for their cause, often by posting questionable material. Is that really any different than, say, a known Nintendo fan posting anything negative they find about Sony and Microsoft? Once again I'd say no. The problem in political discussions is that the moderation is too lax, so scumbags are left alone because the mod team fears that their moderations could be viewed as too biased towards one side.

But what's the difference between banning the aforementioned Nintendo troll and a political troll? Other Nintendo fans won't be upset that a scumbag got dragged to the chopping block, just like people with similar political leanings won't be upset if someone who clearly went too far is removed from discussions. The only people who will band together in either scenario are scumbags, and scumbags are usually unable or unwilling to make a substantial case against the mod team. Even in a worst case scenario, the mod team still has the Mod Thread. The mods don't need to put up with unreasonable demands, because such demands will already be slammed down by other community members.

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Ultimately, this is a gaming site - not a politics one.

There are more than enough politics forums out there. More than I want actually. VGC does not need to be one of them.

I say drop the Politics discussion area entirely. I don't think any real good has come of it.

Stuff like music, movies, anime and sports can stay.



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I dont see whats wrong with a 90 day ban. Theres only seven or so users that would be affected and we can give special exclusion to those who hold minority views.



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Arminillo said:

I dont see whats wrong with a 90 day ban. Theres only seven or so users that would be affected and we can give special exclusion to those who hold minority views.

So, would I be one of those seven, or would I not? How would that be determined?



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How about just stay out of those threads?

Moderation is the same in all threads and if you do not want to see certain threads click them off your list. It is simple.

As for those saying take them off the front page...tried that before...was a bad idea. Before people start having ideas let's ask people who have been here a while who know the history what should be done.

When game news is slow and people get tired of asking what people's favorite color is in games or who is the dumbest developer for the 100th time they make off topic threads and discussion.



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I had an experience that lead to a thought just now.

Having just learned something new, I was overcome with a level of curiosity. So I went and checked the most recent corresponding political thread.

One of the comments bothered me so very much that I wanted to tear into them. I would have used a dictionary and a thesaurus. While it would have involved no cussing, it would have been quite hostile.

The reason I didn't do that is because I didn't want to get banned. Yet if we implemented the "banned from just politics" banning - I absolutely would have. I would have instantly done it since the only penalty is avoiding a section I rather avoid in the first place.

It could enable "hit and run" or so comments. Hateful or unhelpful comments that since you are only banned from a small section - they wouldn't care to lose.



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VGPolyglot said:
Arminillo said:

I dont see whats wrong with a 90 day ban. Theres only seven or so users that would be affected and we can give special exclusion to those who hold minority views.

So, would I be one of those seven, or would I not? How would that be determined?

Do you enforce your opinion on others and think only your opinion matters? are you an asshole in political forums?

If you answered no, then you're good to go. 



Ka-pi96 said:
JustcallmeRiff said:

Shaming and ridicule is the only way to combat "alternative facts". When the president can deny photographic evidence of his inauguration and he can deny scientific evidence of global warming. This emboldens many people. You cannot regulate or moderate them, you must ridicule them, shame him back into the Shadows.

I don't really get this. Sure some people may be a bit hard headed about their political beliefs but that doesn't mean it's ok to try and shame or mock them. Just give evidence that counters what they think to be true and if they still persist either ignore them or if they've gone too far with it and are breaking site rules then report them.

If only facts could counter "what they think to be true". If only ignoring them didn't affect us and future generations. A video game website is one place we can engage them outside their Echo chamber.



JustcallmeRiff said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I don't really get this. Sure some people may be a bit hard headed about their political beliefs but that doesn't mean it's ok to try and shame or mock them. Just give evidence that counters what they think to be true and if they still persist either ignore them or if they've gone too far with it and are breaking site rules then report them.

If only facts could counter "what they think to be true". If only ignoring them didn't affect us and future generations. A video game website is one place we can engage them outside their Echo chamber.

Does mocking them for their beliefs not just push them even further in to an "us vs them" mindset though?



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