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Reggie telling the fanboys who's boss. Good on ya Reg. Innovation is the only reason I'm interested in the Switch. Unlike the simple PCs like PS4 and XB1 which offer 1 or 2 good exclusives a years which can be played on any device if they wanted them to, due to there games lacking innovations. Maybe Sony and Xbox should go 3rd party that way Nintendo can continue to innovate.



At the end of the day it is all about profit, if Nintendo can make more money from a somewhat console business, then to potentially getting 50 percent and above on first party title sales then they shouldn't go third party.



Yerm said:
They've had a good run but its time to let the dream go. People dont want "new inventive controls" to play video games anymore. we want something more conventional and more powerful. and if Nintendo had their games on other consoles they would look better, play better, and sell better. Come on guys, we all know its time.

There's no way to officially know that at all. Hell if you wanna get technical and something to compare it to, look at the massive downward spiral Sega has had since they left hardware. They literally almost exclusively put out sonic titles.



DannyDesario said:

Gotta love nintendo fans hiding behind daddy PC in the comments. Just like Sony guys did last gen with valve games and mass effect. "Nintendo has games you can't get on other platforms, I can get everything on PC" Instead of acknowledging Nintendo has bad 3rd party.  Anyways, it would be cool to see them go 3rd party IMO since they're good devs and bad hardware manufacturers.  

Gotta love the constant "Nintendo go third party threads". I've  been hearing this nonsense for 15+ years, and from what I've heard, it's been like that for years before. The fact is that people want their games. They're just upset that they have to buy another console for it. I can guarantee that if Nintendo put out a console similar to the competition with the same features, online, and games. People still wouldn't buy their console s due to brand loyalty. There has always been a "kiddie" stigma behind Nintendo, that keeps people from buying their consoles. I'd compare it to how kids act in school, they don't want to be different and be made fun of, just like people don't want to be made fun of for gaming on Nintendo. Can't tell you how many times I have been treated like shit just because of the video game system I own, like they think they're better than others because of their choice. But you guys have to deal with it. If you want their games, buy their consoles, just like if Nintendo gamers want uncharted or halo, they have to buy those consoles.



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Ljink96 said:
Reggie: "What's the best graphics card we can put in this thing" THANK YOU REGGIE.

That's all what these consoles are about and what they'll be about in the future. CPU and GPU. Like I said, anybody can engineer greater graphics and cpus it takes risks to do what Nintendo is doing. They aren't playing it safe, it works sometimes and it bombs other times. That's how companies grow and stay alive.

If Nintendo just made a PS4 Pro clone with a Nintendo skin I don't know how great that console would do. But Reggie giving that parental control BS in rebuttal to Matpat is was terrible. He didn't even address the question... I'll wait until E3 to judge Reggie's 3rd party support claims.

I'm not a fan of giving out participation awards for risk taking, specially when it does not pay off, like the Wii U. Now the Wii deserves praise for sure, a risk that paid off in spades.

It's easy to say "Sony and MS just care about graphics and powerz" but that power and affordable price compared to dedicated PC gives power to their studios to push out those experience that are unique to their brand. Sure, there's no "innovative" controls but the game itself IS the unique experience. The gameplay, the story, the sounds and the art direction that previous consoles could not handle, based on the talents of their respective studios. What stops Nintendo from making BotW on a PS4 or pc? Literally nothing, they totally could but obviously they need it to sell their consoles in the hopes that those buyers will also pick up the motion Controller games.

Then again, i don't really know shit :l



"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian

The only people who cheer for Nintendo to go third party, IMO, are not long-time Nintendo fans, but people who want to be able to play Mario or Zelda on PC or PS or Xbox.

Nintendo certainly needs to learn from their Wii U era mistakes, but I think the day they went third party, would be a very sad day for the industry. And you could pretty much say goodbye to any new entries in the vast majority of their franchises. They would just become a homogenized "Mario and Zelda and Pokemon" machine at that point.

It already sucks, quite frankly, that the other "old guard" companies like Atari and Sega shit the bed and dropped out of the race. Neither of them have done too hot since, either. Nintendo is the last remaining "first party" company to still be, first and foremost, a GAME company. The Playstation consoles have by and large been good systems, but it still sucks that the industry has become dominated by mega-corporations that happen to have video game divisions, and "AAA" Third Party companies that crap out games like CoD and Assassin's Creed and Madden every single year. And almost all of the companies that once ruled the industry with quality games, are either dead, like Midway, Hudson Soft, THQ, Factor 5, Free Radical, etc., or might as well be, like Capcom, Konami, Namco, Sega, and Square-Enix.


So no. Even though I really don't like where the industry is at these days, and most of the new games I find myself actually interested in are typically indie titles, I don't want to see Nintendo go third party. They have made some REALLY fuckin' stupid moves in the past few years. But if they could get their act together again, they WERE the one last big company that I said I could usually rely on.



DevilRising said:
The only people who cheer for Nintendo to go third party, IMO, are not long-time Nintendo fans, but people who want to be able to play Mario or Zelda on PC or PS or Xbox.

Nintendo certainly needs to learn from their Wii U era mistakes, but I think the day they went third party, would be a very sad day for the industry. And you could pretty much say goodbye to any new entries in the vast majority of their franchises. They would just become a homogenized "Mario and Zelda and Pokemon" machine at that point

Or maybe they were big Nintendo fans back in the NES ad SNES era, but once a new company came along with more appealing HW, they jumped ship. 

Also, this no new SW argument from Nintendo fans is completely baseless and untrue.  We get new IPs EVERY SINGLE GEN.  Who puts out those IPs?  Publishers who have been known for other IPs in the past.  Sure, they continue to rely on their more famous ones to pay the bills, but that's not all they pump out.  And with indies being able to self-publish, now, we're getting even more gaming experiences.  And really, the only example people have is Sega.  Of course, they were having financial and quality problems before they left the HW market.  It's actually the reason people abandoned them.  If you think Nintendo would go down that route, that says more about Nintendo than I think you want it to.



I haven't watched the video yet but I am a bit surprised they even thought about mentioning that to a figure head of one of the big three companies. Granted, it probably doesn't sound much, but I'm not sure if you would have anyone question a first-party company like that.



Azzanation said:
Reggie telling the fanboys who's boss. Good on ya Reg. Innovation is the only reason I'm interested in the Switch. Unlike the simple PCs like PS4 and XB1 which offer 1 or 2 good exclusives a years which can be played on any device if they wanted them to, due to there games lacking innovations. Maybe Sony and Xbox should go 3rd party that way Nintendo can continue to innovate.

That's kind of hillarious, how many of the greatest Nintendo titles actually rely on these "innovations".

Super Mario Galaxy? No

Breath of the Wild? No

Mario Kart? No

Pokemon? No

Animal Crossing? No

Fire Emblem? No

Almost every Nintendo game would be perfectly viable on ps4/xbo/pc.

If Nintendo had actually innovated in any meaningful succesful way in the past decade maybe Reggie would have some sort of a point, but regardless he avoided the main question and didn't address what's best for Nintendo itself once. The debate was a joke.