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Forums - Politics Discussion - So, Trump's ban on certain nationalities is in effect.

 

Your opinion on the ban

Good! 145 35.02%
 
Get rid of this as fast as possible. 200 48.31%
 
Needs more exceptions 25 6.04%
 
List needs to be redone 44 10.63%
 
Total:414
JWeinCom on 28 January 2017

This apparently also effects greencard holders... So people who have already been vetted, and should be under the protection of US laws.



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NewGuy on 28 January 2017
JWeinCom said:
Incidentally, countries in the middle east that Trump has done business with are not on this list. Hmmmmm...

I think the list comes from the DHS and didn't come from Trump himself. I do think that there needs to be more countries to that list (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, for example). Unfortunately it is something that we need in this day and age.



Stellar_Fungk on 28 January 2017

Iran being on that list doesn't make any sense, unless his goal is to make middle east a sunni/israeli dominated region. The only nations that Iran is remotley a threat to is Israel and Saudi Arabia. Seems to me that Trump is more interested in destroying Iran and Syria and tip the balance in favor of Saudi and Israel, than he is in destroying islamic terrorism.



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ASStronaut on 28 January 2017

UK needs a Donald Trump.
Can we swap Theresa May for Trump?



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JWeinCom on 28 January 2017
NewGuy said:
JWeinCom said:
Incidentally, countries in the middle east that Drumpf has done business with are not on this list. Hmmmmm...

I think the list comes from the DHS and didn't come from Drumpf himself. I do think that there needs to be more countries to that list (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, for example). Unfortunately it is something that we need in this day and age.

Do you have any evidence that it came from DHS?  Not doubting you, just for my own knowledge.



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barneystinson69 on 28 January 2017
badgenome said:
barneystinson69 said:

Turkey should definently be an exception from any sort of list. I mean it has been part of NATO since almost its founding.

Their unfortunate backsliding into Erdoganism aside, yes.

Plus, if Trump did stupidly ban them, he'd be walking right into, "He's doing Putin's bidding destroying NATO like this!"

Its an unfortunent thing indeed. Seeing a secular country being turned into a Saudi Arabia. Definently needs to watched, and if it does try to pull out of NATO, should definently be added to that list.



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jason1637 on 28 January 2017

The need to add more countries to the list.



barneystinson69 on 28 January 2017
Stellar_Fungk said:
Iran being on that list doesn't make any sense, unless his goal is to make middle east a sunni/israeli dominated region. The only nations that Iran is remotley a threat to is Israel and Saudi Arabia. Seems to me that Trump is more interested in destroying Iran and Syria and tip the balance in favor of Saudi and Israel, than he is in destroying islamic terrorism.

How does this make the ME Sunni dominated? Iran is the most powerful nation in the ME excluding Turkey and Israel. It can defend itself just fine, so I don't see this as an issue. It also has the backing of Russia...



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OdinHades on 28 January 2017
Ruler said:
OdinHades said:
Spoiler: Terrorists from those countries will still enter the US. It only affects legal visitors and immigrants.

Most terrorists were legal migrants 

Yeah, and now they're all like "Oh shit, going to the US is illegal now, ABORT MISSION!"

 

Seriously, anyone who doesn't shy away from killing people won't give two fucks about such a silly law. 



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palou on 28 January 2017
Ruler said:
OdinHades said:
Spoiler: Terrorists from those countries will still enter the US. It only affects legal visitors and immigrants.

Most terrorists were legal migrants 

Pretty much all terrorists were either American, or from a country not on the list.



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