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The Economist, a vanity project of the Rothschild, the luciferean billionaire family. If they hate Trump, more reason to love him.
They are just angry cause he is messing up their NWO plans. Good for humanity, bad for the Roths. They think they are related to Lucifer, pratice witchcraft and praise satan in public. They will die like men, though they think they are gods.



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Yeah because Trump is promising what he was elected for



DonFerrari said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Saying good stuff isn't the same as claiming Cuba is a democracy and the topic is about the USA, nobody cares about Brazil, at least not here. 

And more state control isn't something that's typical of left-wing politics anyway. In the USA they've always had a phobia of a government that has too much power, but it's mostly just hysterical fear anyway. In Europe this phobia doesn't really exist, at least not to the extent it does in the USA. Right-wing parties here never argue against things like social healthcare, why would they? It's beneficial to the population. If Obama came to Europe he'd definitely be considered a right-wing politician, and not a left-wing one. 

So what counts is your personnal definitions, ok?

And good on you changing the goalposts.

What personal definition? The USA is a textbook example of an oligarchy. 

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/div-classtitletesting-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizensdiv/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B



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Ruler said:
Yeah because Trump is promising what he was elected for

So did Hitler for the record.



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

This is bullshit. The US never was a full democracy. Downgrading it now is just a PR stunt and shows that those people don't know what they're doing.



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numberwang said:

This study is pure comedy gold.

But coming in the first week of the presidency of Donald Trump, a man who has claimed that election systems are “rigged,” who lies about supposed “voter fraud” and who attacks the media outlets who call him out for those lies, the announcement is all the more unsettling.

Voter fraud by the Russians was proclaimed for months from everywhere and now it is the opposite again and there never was any fraud.

Nobody said there was "voter fraud by the Russians" or that Russia "hacked the voting machines" (that's "fake news" from those on the right, to try and deflect what the real problem is, by saying that the "problem" is something that is verifiably not true). The issue at hand is that Russia hacked emails, and then used that information to influence people in one direction (as they have information on the RNC, but haven't released it). That is the problem. 

Trump, on the other hand, is claiming of millions of illegal votes. From non-citizens, from dead people, from people registered in two or more states (ironically, several members of his administration are guilty of multiple registrations), etc.

You know there is a difference here, right? Not only on the issue, but on the evidence as well. We have evidence that Russia was behind the DNC hacks. There is no evidence of widespreads voter fraud. Especially not to the tune to 3-5 million votes. But, let's just say there were millions of illegal votes: that means that the election was illegitimate. Why does Trump keep undermining the actual integrity of the election? Other than to sooth his ego because he lost by 3 million votes. 



Valdath said:

WagnerPaiva said:
The Economist, a vanity project of the Rothschild, the luciferean billionaire family. If they hate Trump, more reason to love him.
They are just angry cause he is messing up their NWO plans. Good for humanity, bad for the Roths. They think they are related to Lucifer, pratice witchcraft and praise satan in public. They will die like men, though they think they are gods.

You two totally forgot the triple parentheses. Can't forget that if we're going for the "international Jewish bankers" conspiracy angle, can we? You do know that the Rotschild conspiracy theories are anti-Semitic in nature, right?

snyperdud said:

The US is a Republic. It uses a democratic process to elect representatives that vote and draft legislation. It was never a "Full Democracy" to begin with.

outlawauron said:

How can you type something like this and not just laugh uncontrollably?

As far as the Economist, the US has never been a full democracy. A constitutional republic that has never required popular vote to select a President or to pass almost all federal law.

"We're a republic, not a democracy," is a tired old half-truth. China, Belarus, Turkmenistan, and Zimbabwe are republics, too. You know what separates us from them? Democracy. The U.S. is a democratic republic. It has free and fair elections (for the most part; see also "Electoral College," "gerrymandering," "disenfranchisement"), and the head of state is not a monarch. A country can be a democratic republic, a democratic monarchy, a non-democratic republic, or a non-democratic monarchy. To put it in pictures:

DonFerrari said:

Could be... yet nowadays we see it more on the very minority groups than on the majorities.

Ok, if you say so.

The growing of the state and excessive regulation that Obama and democrats love so much is what leftwing most like. That and doing social control through their programs.

What serious politician? In USA I don't know (but from what I heard even Trudeau was saying good stuff about Castro). And for your information in Brazil, 2/3 of the parties and politicians act and say like Cuba and Venezuela are democracies and that the presidents there were elected.

The center of political gravity in the U.S. has shifted so far right over the past several decades that anything to the left of Reagan's policies is considered "socialism" by most conservatives and right-wingers. But by rest-of-the-world standards, the Democratic party is a centrist party with a small center-left wing, as well as a few on the center-right (Blue Dogs).

And I imagine by "social controls" I assume you mean "political correctness" but not, say, "banning marijuana, same-sex marriage, and 'unpatriotic' speech."



Shadow1980 said:
Valdath said:

WagnerPaiva said:
The Economist, a vanity project of the Rothschild, the luciferean billionaire family. If they hate Trump, more reason to love him.
They are just angry cause he is messing up their NWO plans. Good for humanity, bad for the Roths. They think they are related to Lucifer, pratice witchcraft and praise satan in public. They will die like men, though they think they are gods.

You two totally forgot the triple parentheses. Can't forget that if we're going for the "international Jewish bankers" conspiracy angle, can we? You do know that the Rotschild conspiracy theories are anti-Semitic in nature, right?

snyperdud said:

The US is a Republic. It uses a democratic process to elect representatives that vote and draft legislation. It was never a "Full Democracy" to begin with.

outlawauron said:

How can you type something like this and not just laugh uncontrollably?

As far as the Economist, the US has never been a full democracy. A constitutional republic that has never required popular vote to select a President or to pass almost all federal law.

"We're a republic, not a democracy," is a tired old half-truth. China, Belarus, Turkmenistan, and Zimbabwe are republics, too. You know what separates us from them? Democracy. The U.S. is a democratic republic. It has free and fair elections (for the most part; see also "Electoral College," "gerrymandering," "disenfranchisement"), and the head of state is not a monarch. A country can be a democratic republic, a democratic monarchy, a non-democratic republic, or a non-democratic monarchy. To put it in pictures:

DonFerrari said:

Could be... yet nowadays we see it more on the very minority groups than on the majorities.

Ok, if you say so.

The growing of the state and excessive regulation that Obama and democrats love so much is what leftwing most like. That and doing social control through their programs.

What serious politician? In USA I don't know (but from what I heard even Trudeau was saying good stuff about Castro). And for your information in Brazil, 2/3 of the parties and politicians act and say like Cuba and Venezuela are democracies and that the presidents there were elected.

The center of political gravity in the U.S. has shifted so far right over the past several decades that anything to the left of Reagan's policies is considered "socialism" by most conservatives and right-wingers. But by rest-of-the-world standards, the Democratic party is a centrist party with a small center-left wing, as well as a few on the center-right (Blue Dogs).

And I imagine by "social controls" I assume you mean "political correctness" but not, say, "banning marijuana, same-sex marriage, and 'unpatriotic' speech."

How is your response different from my post? I acknowledged it is Republic using a democratic process. To say it was a "full democracy" in any sense is misleading. It sounds to me like we're saying the same thing.



They are definitely right.

There are two possibilities.

a) Trump is right and several million people are voting illegally. That's a flawed democracy.

b) Trump is wrong and the highest elected official is trying to delegitimize the electoral process. Also a flawed democracy.



Shadow1980 said:
Valdath said:
WagnerPaiva said:
The Economist, a vanity project of the Rothschild, the luciferean billionaire family. If they hate Trump, more reason to love him.
They are just angry cause he is messing up their NWO plans. Good for humanity, bad for the Roths. They think they are related to Lucifer, pratice witchcraft and praise satan in public. They will die like men, though they think they are gods.

You two totally forgot the triple parentheses. Can't forget that if we're going for the "international Jewish bankers" conspiracy angle, can we? You do know that the Rotschild conspiracy theories are anti-Semitic in nature, right?


Not from me. Rothschild is not a real jew, he is a self-declared theosophic luciferean, and has delusions that his family is related by blood to the original liar.

As for Soros, he is a atheist humanist that sold jews to the nazis when he was a teenager.

Real israelites and Israel are always in my prayer. I love them, the land belongs to them, their capitol is Jerusalem and 1948 was Ezekiel 37 fulfilled. They will never ever be defeated.

Does not matter really if you believe in evil, in God, whatever, the Rothschild do, and they do believe in a NWO, they declare it over and over again.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.