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Safiir said:
outlawauron said:

Of course, it'll mean higher prices, which means that people won't be buying as many goods made in Mexico. Considering the majority of goods imported, there are multiple alternatives. It's a case of Mexico needs the US far more than the US needs Mexico.

And if people are not buying products there will be no money from taxes, which still means the americans will be financing the wall.

This, it amazes me how gullible people are in buying Trump's BS, he's more of a political clown than Boris Johnson and we didn't think that was possible in the UK.



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outlawauron said:
BraLoD said:

I'll start by saying I don't like posting politics topics here, but that has to be shared and I didn't see it here yet.

Today the ridiculous claim he would build a wall over Mexico and make they pay for it was actually taken seriously by him and was officially signed.

Right after the President of Mexico lamented the act, and obviously said Mexico wouldn't pay for such thing.

Then Trump went on Twitter to tell him that if he doesn't plan to pay for it, that he should cancel a meeting both had on USA later this month, and that was exactly what happened, Mexico's President just cancelled it.

It's like the world's most powerful country is being ran by a spoiled brat that has a serious superiority complex because was born rich, what the actual fuck is even happening to USA, how the fuck will other countries take internacional relationships seriously with USA like that?

We all know USA is powerful, and is involved with a shit ton of important things with other countries, but if that's how it's going to be from now on, countries should and probably will start shiftting deals between themselves more often and directing more money between themselves and less through USA, which is a lose-lose for it. Hopefully if things start really getting out of hand USA people will take action and take power off his hands before real shit hits the fan on a worldwide scale.

And now all goods made in Mexico will be slapped with huge tarriffs and import taxes (this means that Mexico will pay for it). The Mexican President will either step down from his posturing (as he's very unpopular in Mexico) or fall on his sword on this.

It actually means USA people will pay for it, twice, because they will pay for the actual building of the wall, and now for overpriced goods.
People there will buy less stuff from Mexico, so it'll also hurt people that choose not to pay for it and will have to find more expensive alternatives.

USA only loses with that.
Mexico loses as well, but they can sell their goods for other countries instead of letting USA try to rule them.



pastro243 said:
contestgamer said:

Yeah they will, Trump will tax them to hell or simply take remittances that Mexican Americans send back to family in Mexico. And as Mexico is a third world country, if they try to retalliate we can absolutely obliterate their economy anbd cause the kind of damage that will be 10 times worse than whatever damage they can deal to us in a trade war.

Of course you can do more damage to Mexico is you enter a trade war. That being a smart choice is what is questionable, and I'm not even taking about good/bad or moral choices. If Trump wants USA to do better, having Mexico as a good trading partner is better than to make a trade war with them.

 

And you can call Mexico a third world country all you want, but fact is that they are one of the most important trading partners you have and so, they are  more than relevant to your economy

 

The calculation here is that I doubt Mexico would want to engage in such a war. Especialy not with a leader that is at a historically low approval rating and doesn't need an economic crash on top of everything else. I believe we can make them bow and buckle and they'll fall in line with adequate pressure.



Safiir said:
outlawauron said:

Of course, it'll mean higher prices, which means that people won't be buying as many goods made in Mexico. Considering the majority of goods imported, there are multiple alternatives. It's a case of Mexico needs the US far more than the US needs Mexico.

And if people are not buying products there will be no money from taxes, which still means the americans will be financing the wall.

Not really, because that money then goes to other Americans providing those goods. You're keeping the money supply within the US. Furthermore if he just takes remittances then cost of goods won't be effected anyway.



BraLoD said:
outlawauron said:

And now all goods made in Mexico will be slapped with huge tarriffs and import taxes (this means that Mexico will pay for it). The Mexican President will either step down from his posturing (as he's very unpopular in Mexico) or fall on his sword on this.

It actually means USA people will pay for it, twice, because they will pay for the actual building of the wall, and now for overpriced goods.
People there will buy less stuff from Mexico, so it'll also hurt people that choose not to pay for it and will have to find more expensive alternatives.

USA only loses with that.
Mexico loses as well, but they can sell their goods for other countries instead of letting USA try to rule them.

Who else will they sell to? We can slap a saction on them and starve half the country if we wanted to. They will bow their heads. And we can also take remittances sent back which will not effect product prices, since he'd just be taking the money Mexican Americans are sending back to their families. We can put so much pressure on that government and it's people that we could break them in no time. We just need to grow some balls and throw our weight around. Trump is in his second week. He's just getting warmed up. The harm he can do to Mexico may be untold. They will bow.



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Safiir said:
outlawauron said:

Of course, it'll mean higher prices, which means that people won't be buying as many goods made in Mexico. Considering the majority of goods imported, there are multiple alternatives. It's a case of Mexico needs the US far more than the US needs Mexico.

And if people are not buying products there will be no money from taxes, which still means the americans will be financing the wall.

I think you're lacking a pretty fundamental understanding how all this works. Mexico is dependent on the US to buy our goods. They will either raise their prices to help cover some of the loss (ie. this is what life is like in Europe) or take a profit hit to keep their place in the market.

The vacuum that would be created by lack of US purchase of Mexican goods would be far too large for those companies to not be competitive.



BraLoD said:
outlawauron said:

And now all goods made in Mexico will be slapped with huge tarriffs and import taxes (this means that Mexico will pay for it). The Mexican President will either step down from his posturing (as he's very unpopular in Mexico) or fall on his sword on this.

It actually means USA people will pay for it, twice, because they will pay for the actual building of the wall, and now for overpriced goods.
People there will buy less stuff from Mexico, so it'll also hurt people that choose not to pay for it and will have to find more expensive alternatives.

USA only loses with that.
Mexico loses as well, but they can sell their goods for other countries instead of letting USA try to rule them.

Hmm, you realize that the proposed tariff or import taxes on Mexican goods (based off last year's exports alone) would pay for the estimated cost of two walls across the entire border? Estimated costs are $15-25 billion and the proposed tax is 22% with $236 billion exported into the US in 2015.

And those "expensive" alternatives are either from the US or from other Central and South American countries. When one of your largest trade partners has a fairly substantive trade deficit in their favor, it's not uncommon for politicians to try to balance it out. When you have the leverage in trade situations, you don't concede. :-/

Edit: Ofc, we could truly hard-nosed and eliminate all foreign aid to Mexico and use that to pay for it. The United States gave away $419m in foreign aid to Mexico in 2013.



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contestgamer said:
BraLoD said:

It actually means USA people will pay for it, twice, because they will pay for the actual building of the wall, and now for overpriced goods.
People there will buy less stuff from Mexico, so it'll also hurt people that choose not to pay for it and will have to find more expensive alternatives.

USA only loses with that.
Mexico loses as well, but they can sell their goods for other countries instead of letting USA try to rule them.

Who else will they sell to? We can slap a saction on them and starve half the country if we wanted to. They will bow their heads. And we can also take remittances sent back which will not effect product prices, since he'd just be taking the money Mexican Americans are sending back to their families. We can put so much pressure on that government and it's people that we could break them in no time. We just need to grow some balls and throw our weight around. Trump is in his second week. He's just getting warmed up. The harm he can do to Mexico may be untold. They will bow.

Lol, keep on with that 'Murica thinking, must be cool inside that little bubble.
Trump falls before Mexico falls, USA people itself will make it happen.

Sad that we have to have people that support lunatic self centered notions like this.



Lol, now they are saying "narcos" will pay for the wall. It's a clear indication Mexico won't pay for it and they know it.



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