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BraLoD said:
JRPGfan said:

You worry too much.

Worst that can happend is he wrecks the US economy. Due to trade wars.

I suspect it ll strengthen trade between EU & china instead, rest of world will just do less trade with the US.

US ecomony is directly involved with lots of other economies on a big scale.
I hope you remember 2007/2008 USA crisis global effect.

I think it's the perfect timing for the world to finally make steps towards stop being so USA-dependent

EU must focus on a trading deal with China and attract investos, and let UK finally become USA's b**** in order to keep up



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DonFerrari said:
Player2 said:

They do.

That should do for a incredible shooting range.

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That's pretty sick, man.



Player2 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

So we had Obama throwing out millions (criminal illegals), yet the illegal population is still massive and many come back in spite of being criminals. Maybe Mexico is doing a shitty job and we can't rely on them.

Security doesn't begin and end at the border. We have to do a better job enforcing existings laws, deal with those found in the country one way or another. As opposed to ignoring much of it.

USA hasn't been able to stop drug cartels within its territory, which should be easier to do because they operate with something that can be detected, and on top of it its security forces are better prepared, but you're expecting Mexico to completely stop immigration mafias. I think that's an unrealistic expectative.

I didn't say I expect anything from Mexico, too corrupt. That's why El Chapo is here.

The person I responded to was arguing Mexico deters people from coming to the US. I'm arguing they suck.



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BraLoD said:

 1.but the problem is the "ruler" of this powerful country is starting to prove he is going to be a horrible partner for anyone who doesn't accept him as his superior,

2.and not many countries will accept that,

1. That's basically USA's ways of doing things.

Libya,Iraq,Vietnam,Korea,Serbia,Syria...  Well, "superpower" that's the name. Remember guys, superpower has no allies, only clients.

2. Russia and China Iran. 3 countries.  Rest of the world will accept that - simple because they have no other option. Reality is a bitch but that's it.



DJEVOLVE said:
Lawlight said:

Can you check yours facts before posting? Net immigration is 3.86 per 1,000 people for the US.

yes but people From Mexico is a net zero. Check  your facts before you post. You're talking about Immigrants that out stay their visa, that wall is really working for them huh.

 

Oh seems I'm Correct. You keep wishing for that wall though.. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010/

So now you move your goalpost? Lol. I have to laugh at that. On top of that, net immigration from Mexico means nothing when illegals are still coming in.

 

And no, I'm not talking about immigrants who overstay their visa.



Peh said:
Can we ban the word liberal, because it seems it is being used against everyone who is against trump even if someone just doesn't agree with his approach.

We should ban the word racist as it seems it is being haed against everyone who is not against Trump.



KingofTrolls said:

1. Not at all. They are actually more a competitors ( lets say one milk producer is leaving a milk buyer and try to sell its milk to another milk producers ) than partners. Brazil accounts only for >2% of Mexico trade and there is a reason for it.


I think the point you missed is that... Mexico can start having stonger economic ties with other nations like Brazil in the face of decreasing ties with the US, not that they currently do.

KingofTrolls said:

2. Yes, Austrialia is slowly entering China's sphere of influence ( 1st buyer of coal if we count China+Taiwan as one country ) and that's natural and very good, wise process. China is simply more reliable than US now. If not that 2008 crisis, China will be a biggest employer in US already.


Australia was already in that sphere of influence, have been for over a decade, now we are slowly backing away from it with better ties to the general Asia region.

The US backing out of the TPP did place a spanner in the works, but the current thinking is... That we might continue forward with it anyway, without the US.
Australia is in a position to be the "Food Bowl" of Asia, which could be worth Trillions.



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Pemalite said:
KingofTrolls said:

1. Not at all. They are actually more a competitors ( lets say one milk producer is leaving a milk buyer and try to sell its milk to another milk producers ) than partners. Brazil accounts only for >2% of Mexico trade and there is a reason for it.


I think the point you missed is that... Mexico can start having stonger economic ties with other nations like Brazil in the face of decreasing ties with the US, not that they currently do.

KingofTrolls said:

2. Yes, Austrialia is slowly entering China's sphere of influence ( 1st buyer of coal if we count China+Taiwan as one country ) and that's natural and very good, wise process. China is simply more reliable than US now. If not that 2008 crisis, China will be a biggest employer in US already.


Australia was already in that sphere of influence, have been for over a decade, now we are slowly backing away from it with better ties to the general Asia region.

The US backing out of the TPP did place a spanner in the works, but the current thinking is... That we might continue forward with it anyway, without the US.
Australia is in a position to be the "Food Bowl" of Asia, which could be worth Trillions.

Brazil isn't a very rich country.