Lawlight said:
Ratchet and Clank aren't first party games. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be part of the discussion |
Sony owns the IP, but it's made by a third party studio.
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pokoko said:
Yeah, I guess you are. You seem like someone who thinks terms like "first-party" were made up by fans but that's just ignorance. They weren't. It's an industry term. From a publisher's perspective, anything they hold rights to, they consider "first party". No one can come along and publish Minecraft on the Vita, for example. Do you know why? Because Sony holds the rights via agreement. I honestly don't know why this is difficult for you to understand. Regardless, I'll pass on to Microsoft that you think you know more than they do about publishing. |
And that's obviously what the OP had in mind, right? Minecraft is a good Sony first party game, a good Nintendo first party game, and a good Microsoft first party game. A game developed by a studio owned by Microsoft. That makes so much sense. Just like your claim about Nioh being both a third and first party game. "Published by" /= first party.
I guess I see what you mean, though they aren't that similar :p
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Hynad said:
So by your logic, The Last of Us is a sequel to Uncharted... |
No there not. You would be stupid to think thats a sequel. My point is if a game is based in the same universe as its previous game than its related and can either be a prequel, Sequel or another view.
Nice try though.
Goatseye said:
What? Does that even matter when the core game is intact? Gears is made by the same person that envisioned the mechanics of the first one. You wouldn't know that though. People give MS first party ton of credit because they emphasize a lot on gameplay. They have fantastic MP games for every genre they're on, not every publisher can say that. |
Original developers is not one person.
MS first party offerings for three gens have been poor. That's the bigger picture the majority of XOne users here ignore. Forza has been their only internal project that has reached commercial + critical success.
Gears + Halo are bought & so is Minecraft. So basically, three of the biggest IP's MS own, do not originate from their internal studios. The same can't be said about Sony or Nintendo.
Also, before the "Sony bought __________ so doesn't that count as third party?" rebuttal comes around, Sony Japan, PD, Santa Monica, Sony London, GG, among closed studios like Zipper, had critical + commercial successes, and they were all internally constructed studios.
Even for the 360 the majority of criticially praised (*timed) + successful exclusives were third party: Halo, Gears, ME, Bioshock, L4D, Fable. MS, without third party exclusives, just don't have an appealing exclusive lineup, for any gen they've competed in.
Azzanation said:
No there not. You would be stupid to think thats a sequel. My point is if a game is based in the same universe as its previous game than its related and can either be a prequel, Sequel or another view. Nice try though. |
Where was it ever claimed that The Last Guardian takes place in or is based on the same universe as SOTC and Ico?
Azzanation said:
No there not. You would be stupid to think thats a sequel. My point is if a game is based in the same universe as its previous game than its related and can either be a prequel, Sequel or another view. Nice try though. |
Why're you ignoring my post?
Nice try though.
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Hynad said:
Where was it claimed that The Last Guardian takes place in the same universe as SOTC and Ico? |
Where was it claimed that Xenoblade Chronicles X takes place in the same univere as Xenoblade Chronicles? Notice how the newly unveiled game by Monolith Soft is called Xenoblade Chronicles 2 instead of 3?
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Alkibiádēs said:
Where was it claimed Xenoblade Chronicles X takes place in the same univere as Xenoblade Chronicles? |
Are you trying to pin that claim on me? He brought forth the idea that sequels have to be in the same universe.
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