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Hynad on 25 January 2017
EricHiggin said:
Hynad said:

Sorry. I don't see a norm there. 

PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS?

Weren't you saying "4 years is the norm for Microsoft"? What does PlayStation has to do with it?



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EricHiggin on 25 January 2017
Hynad said:
EricHiggin said:

XBOX to 360 - 4 years

360 to XB1 - Yes, the 360 lasted 8 years, but that was an odd gen where consoles launched on par, if not better than the best PC's. The way I look at it, 360 was 2X, 4 year cycles, bundled into one very powerful console.

XB1 to SCO - 4 years (as far as we know)

Sorry. I don't see a norm there. 

 

EricHiggin said:
Hynad said:

Sorry. I don't see a norm there. 

PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS?

 

Hynad said:
EricHiggin said:

PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS?

Weren't you saying "4 years is the norm for Microsoft"? What does PlayStation has to do with it?

It doesn't. It explains why you don't see a norm there with XB 4 year cycles though.



Hynad on 25 January 2017
EricHiggin said:
Hynad said:

Weren't you saying "4 years is the norm for Microsoft"? What does PlayStation has to do with it?

It doesn't. It explains why you don't see a norm there with XB 4 year cycles though.

The reason why I don't a four years console life cycle as a norm on Microsoft's side is because they don't have a 4 years life cycle as a norm.



thismeintiel on 25 January 2017
Miguel_Zorro said:
thismeintiel said:

Nintendo isn't really on their own timeline. They're just sticking with the 5-6 years between gens. Last gen got Sony and MS off a little, as they went 7-8 years.  I think this gen they're going back to at most 6.  So, the Switch is still next gen, regardless of power. It's coming out ~6 years after the 3DS and ~5 years after the Wii U, so no difference in time there.

I went back and checked the dates.  It's a combination of Sony releasing at more spaced out intervals, Xbox doing the same but with a smaller sample size, and Nintendo releasing more rapidly than the others for the last couple of generations.

PS1 - Sept 1995 (North America) - came out Dec 1994 in Japan
PS2 - Spring 2000 - 5.5 years North America
PS3 - Fall 2006 - 6.5 years
PS4 - Fall 2013 - 7 years

XBox - Nov 2001 (NA)
XBox  360 - Nov 2005 - 4 years 
XBone One - Nov 2013 (NA) - 8 years later

NES - October 1985 (NA)
Super Nintendo - Aug 1991 (NA) - 6 years
Nintendo 64 -  Sept 1996 (NA) -  5 years later in North America
GameCube - Fall 2001 - 5 years North America
Wii - Fall 2006 - 5 years
WiiU - Fall 2012 - 6 years
Switch - Spring 2017 - 4.5 years

Nintendo generally releases consoles more often, and it's getting to the point now where the generations don't align.  While the 360 was released fast, Microsoft any Sony re-aligned with the XBox One/PS5.  You can call it Nintendo releasing faster or Sony releasing over a longer time frame - it's the same effect.  If Nintendo releases the next console post-Switch 5 years later in 2012, that will only be 2-3 years after the next Playstation Console.  This only re-aligns if the Switch is an enormous success and Nintendo waits 8 years before releasing another system.

The problem with the Switch in the timeline is that it is not only a successor to the Wii U, but also the 3DS.  That would make its launch 6 years after the 3DS debuted.  So, nothing really different from the 5-6 years.  I expect Sony to go back to a 6 year schedule this gen, releasing the PS5 in 2019.  Even if Nintendo continues to release 2 years before Sony does, it doesn't really change them being in the same gen.



 

DonFerrari on 25 January 2017

guess he missed the part that new games made for Scorpio will also run on X1



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VAMatt on 25 January 2017

It does appear that generations are coming to an end. We're moving to a continuous upgrade cycle, as we've seen forever with PCs. So, I get what the dude is saying - it's a very big step forward in terms of power. I don't thinks he's intending to say anything more than that.



Snoopy on 25 January 2017
VAMatt said:
It does appear that generations are coming to an end. We're moving to a continuous upgrade cycle, as we've seen forever with PCs. So, I get what the dude is saying - it's a very big step forward in terms of power. I don't thinks he's intending to say anything more than that.

Exactly. This should also please the PC mustard race because consoles won't hold it back as much.



exclusive_console on 25 January 2017
Snoopy said:
VAMatt said:
It does appear that generations are coming to an end. We're moving to a continuous upgrade cycle, as we've seen forever with PCs. So, I get what the dude is saying - it's a very big step forward in terms of power. I don't thinks he's intending to say anything more than that.

Exactly. This should also please the PC mustard race because consoles won't hold it back as much.

Well the games will be made using Xbone and PS4 as the base and PS4P, Scorpio will just be high res version of it. I am not sure how this helps



 

Snoopy on 25 January 2017
exclusive_console said:
Snoopy said:

Exactly. This should also please the PC mustard race because consoles won't hold it back as much.

Well the games will be made using Xbone and PS4 as the base and PS4P, Scorpio will just be high res version of it.

Not exactly, they can increase the textures, fps, AA, ect. Just like pc games.



FallingTitan on 25 January 2017

i got the x1 should i get scorpio?