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John2290 said:

  Gays are all good in my book in this sector and there should be no issue but Transgender people? No. Even if they pass all trials and training and aren't outed on the medical they are a target for bullying and a sure weak link.

 

 

John2290 said:

No, it is an issue of putting penis and vagina, all the pheramones and hormones and all that entails, beside each other in battle. Have you ever been in love? If you have you know you make rash decisions, your world view changes, you litterally can not stop fucking, five minutes pass alone and you can't get her out of your head. I can't imagine what effect this would have on the battlefield but I'm sure of one thing, it creates a situation where you are given an order but that love of yours takes priority...in the military everything hinges on the ability and training to take orders. And then there is the salty fuckers who can't get legit pussy and feel the need to take it for themselves.

Why is it that most of your arguments seem to be referencing women/transgender people not being in combat because of what might happen to them/"because of them"? It seems as though you're trying to help women/transgender people but all you are actually doing is defending the kinds of rape and bullying that would occur. Instead of defense of the bullies masquerading as defense of women and transgender people why don't you just do something about the "bullies"? Women and transgenders are not the problem in this situation.



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Goatseye said:
Branko2166 said:

It's not about ethics but being practical. I'm pretty sure that countries like Russia and China are laughing their asses off when they watch cringe worthy crap like that Senator pushing her ideological agenda rather than doing her job in making sure that the most qualified person is appointed as secretary of defense.

Personally, I think that if women are allowed to serve in infantry roles then female only units should be formed. It has been proven that men get far more demoralised when they witness female deaths. Hence it becomes more difficult to maintain unit cohesion. Unfortunately it may take a military embarrassment to kick everyone back to reality. It is said that political correctness has been allowed to breach the military but I suppose it was inevitable.

It was political correctness that got African Americans and other races into combat roles. Look where that got US military.

First you have to understand an organization Modus Operandi before chiming in.

Give me a link to the publishing where they concluded that men get more demoralized when they see women die.

Not really. African Americans served in the military long before segregation was abolished.

And besides that you have made a false equivalance. I am talking about the difference between the sexes not skin colour.

We are a sexually dymorphic species with proven differences between males and females. No matter what they may think in gender studies or sociology classes. To pretend otherwise is to engage in gross negligence.



 

 

Branko2166 said:
Goatseye said:

It was political correctness that got African Americans and other races into combat roles. Look where that got US military.

First you have to understand an organization Modus Operandi before chiming in.

Give me a link to the publishing where they concluded that men get more demoralized when they see women die.

Not really. African Americans served in the military long before segregation was abolished.

And besides that you have made a false equivalance. I am talking about the difference between the sexes not skin colour.

We are a sexually dymorphic species with proven differences between males and females. No matter what they may think in gender studies or sociology classes. To pretend otherwise is to engage in gross negligence.

African Americans served in combat units?

It's not fals equivalence, it's the same prejudicial mindset  that fogs reasoning. Sexual dymorphism doesn't play a role, if not just trivial, in modern combat zones.

Soldiers don't run around with 100lb on their back or march for miles to patrol or engage their target. Drop this already cause you guys have no idea how a combat unit operate in the theater of operations.