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KJN said:
Green098 said:

How can someone tell me this? The Joycons are way more technologically advanced than the move controllers yet people are saying Nintendo are the ones selling overpriced accessories.

PS Move Controllers Price: https://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-Move-Motion-Controllers-Two-Pack/dp/B01LD7MR2C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1485108610&sr=8-3&keywords=ps+move+controller

Joycon Controllers Price: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Joy-Con-L-R-Gray/dp/B01N6QKT7H/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485108856&sr=8-1&keywords=joycon+controller

 

Move Controllers are used for VR, the most amazing technology gaming hast ever seen. Works basically like the Matrix, like the Animus in Assassins creed and so on. Joycons have HD rumble that gives you the feeling of balls in a box. Thats why.

So? The technology to make the Move is almost as old as the original Wiimotes. This is not an upgraded version that fully takes advantage of VR, it's the same controller reused for this new tech, and posibly priced to take advantage of it. The Joycons may be using some old gimmicks, but in theory they are using the latest tech for those old gimmicks.



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I'm not going to defend the Joycon prices because I do think they are ridiculous, HOWEVER to be somewhat fair some portion of the market Nintendo is aiming for are going to just be buying the system to mainly use as a handheld for themselves and therefore will have no reason to buy extra Joycons.

Also if the Joycons individually really do work comfortably well for multiplayer gaming, buying an extra set of Joycons for 79.99 would hypothetically be providing you with TWO controllers so you then could play with up to 4 people (when including the original set with the system in mind).

I think what you have to understand is that most likely that is how Nintendo is selling them.... essentially as the extra set to buy if you want to play party games with a group.

I do think the comparison is poor though with the Move controllers. I don't particularly care for or like the fact that Nintendo has made the Joycon controllers somewhat advanced and complicated as far as features, BUT there is no doubt that they do indeed include some pretty new tech ideas for home gaming. In particular the motion camera thing and the advanced rumble. Personally I'm really only curious about the rumble feature and how advanced and nice it might be for immersion in certain games I'm playing traditionally, but still, for some there might be value with all of the features

 

basically in the end the reality is its possible that for WHAT THEY ARE the Joycons are not necessarily that overpriced. However, that doesn't change the fact that possibly Nintendo should or shouldn't have went with an expensive controller like that or the possibility that Nintendo should have had different options for bundles that included more basic Joycon controllers versus the higher tech ones. Really the effect the price point will have on whether consumers pick up extra accessories is the mystery, I suppose we'll have to wait and see. And a lot of that will end up having to do with whether or not Nintendo releases games that really take advantage of the Joycons. Not necessarily with the motion camera stuff, but particularly with the advanced rumble sensors 



Mar1217 said:
KJN said:

 

Move Controllers are used for VR, the most amazing technology gaming hast ever seen. Works basically like the Matrix, like the Animus in Assassins creed and so on. Joycons have HD rumble that gives you the feeling of balls in a box. Thats why.

It's not what we heard from Koei Tecmo who are working on Dragon Quest Heroes I-II ...

can't wait for that slimy cutting sensation ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

With these graphics? http://s2.n4g.com/news/2006613_0.jpg :D

Asking the right questions here...

But who really needs more than 2 joycons? A handful of people with more than 2 player local co-op?



torok said:
Renna Hazel said:

I haven't even used the pro controller yet but I'm guessing it has a significant advantage in battery life over the PS4 pad. 

Yes, most likely. It still doesn't justify the price tag.

bonzobanana said:

I didn't even know the pro controller had digital triggers are you sure? Seems another massive fail on Nintendo's part. Hated the lack of analogue triggers on the gamepad made racing games feel wrong as well as other genres of games. One of the great benefits of analogue triggers is to combine it with vibration feedback so you get recoil when you fire a gun or even clutch bite when you are changing gears in a car. So really the hd feedback of the Switch is actually quite basic if its only linked to digital buttons. So for all the talk of improved feedback its actually in real terms not that good.

Another thing to strike off the list of what's good about the Switch. It goes from bad to worse.

Also pro controller is £65 in the UK, dualshock 4 is about £40 with some discounted to as low as £30 so certainly not price competitive in the UK. 

It's not 100% confirmed but several different sources. This is one: http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2017/01/14/nintendo-switch-joy-cons-and-pro-controller-use-digital-triggers-puts-gamecube-vc-titles-in-doubt/

I still don't understand why Nintendo is making life difficult. You want 3rd party, but don't care for racing games?



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They're both way overpriced.

But, considering I got my PS move controllers for $10 each from a clearance bin that contained deluxe copies of Wonderbook, that $99 price for move controllers is even more hilarious. In fact, I paid more for the charging dock than I did for the PS Move controllers themselves.



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Egelo said:
One is a overpriced fundamental part of the console, the other an add on you have little need for.

ooooh. I need 2 PS moves like I need a fourth asshole. Not totally sure how it equates to the Switch for certain, but it's probabaly at least 2nd asshole territory. Which I also don't need.  I'm about to buy my sixth 32gb asshole on the Vita, so save some consideration for commitment to a platform in my assessment. They are overprived though. No matter the asshole metric applied. In summery, 2 Moves are less integral to the the experience. 2 Joycons cost a bit less, but will be more important. I give this this idea 3/5 assholes.




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torok said:
Renna Hazel said:

I haven't even used the pro controller yet but I'm guessing it has a significant advantage in battery life over the PS4 pad. 

Yes, most likely. It still doesn't justify the price tag.

bonzobanana said:

I didn't even know the pro controller had digital triggers are you sure? Seems another massive fail on Nintendo's part. Hated the lack of analogue triggers on the gamepad made racing games feel wrong as well as other genres of games. One of the great benefits of analogue triggers is to combine it with vibration feedback so you get recoil when you fire a gun or even clutch bite when you are changing gears in a car. So really the hd feedback of the Switch is actually quite basic if its only linked to digital buttons. So for all the talk of improved feedback its actually in real terms not that good.

Another thing to strike off the list of what's good about the Switch. It goes from bad to worse.

Also pro controller is £65 in the UK, dualshock 4 is about £40 with some discounted to as low as £30 so certainly not price competitive in the UK. 

It's not 100% confirmed but several different sources. This is one: http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2017/01/14/nintendo-switch-joy-cons-and-pro-controller-use-digital-triggers-puts-gamecube-vc-titles-in-doubt/

Are you shitting me? What the fuck are Nintendo doing?



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Green098 said:
KLAMarine said:
Has there been any improvement in the tech inside the ps move controllers?

No they are the same as the ones that came out for the PS3 years ago I think, from what I have heard.

They are. I bought the $100 bundle when I got my PSVR. I felt raped afterwards. I mean I already had a Move and a Nav Con at already. It didn't even feature Micro USB support. It's 100% the same.

 

*Edit*

Since it seems people have already answered your question, I'll ask another. What do people in this thread feel is a good price for what the controllers offer?