Yes, they scale and define games settings on xbox one and ps4 in order to make sure it can run properly. Same thing with ps4 pro with games like tomb raider,BF, nioh,ect.  Not that hard for these developers, ps4 pro already proven it.

Who's to say multiplatform games will look significantly better? My bet is that it will be just like with the ps4 Pro, slightly higher resolution and more stable framerates on the games that are patched, but it's not going to make a night and day difference. Still pretty cool, of course, but it depends on the price point if the masses will think an upgrade will be worth it. If it's higher than $399, I don't see many people buying it.

Sorry, was referring non f2p games and AAA 60 dollars games. COD isn't doing too well on steam last I checked or the fact games like FF, Destiny and Madden aren't on PC.

As much as you wished it worked that way, it doesn't! Sorry! Xbox One games don't scale! They're optimized specifically for the architecture of the Xbox One, the engine is streamlined to use less of a hardware footprint because it doesn't have to detect hardware, because it doesn't have to constantly make output decisions based on hardware. It already knows the hardware - there are no decisions to be made. As a result, the Xbox One will run games better than a PC running the same PC game on equivalent hardware. You can't just undo that by making that game run on more powerful hardware. The game engine still thinks it's running on a regular Xbox One. It doesn't have the ability to detect hardware since it had no reason to.

So MS runs into the same wall Sony did, and will have to implement the same solution Sony did. All Xbox One games will run on the Scorpio exactly the same as they will run on an X1 (barring some type of post-processing video upscaler) unless the development team patch in the basic ability to detect the additional hardware into their engines via an update (still not nearly to the extent this is used in PC game development), and then specifically program using that additional power to enhance the gameplay experience. The console will not be able to figure that out on it's own. It will act just like a regular Xbox One otherwise. This is how the PS4 Pro works. This is how Scorpio will work as well.

The PS4pro has some of that too.... and it doesnt appear it matters much.

People still go for the cheapest console, which is the normal slim version.

Mariginal upgrade vs Huge Upgrade. Here is a video from AVGN that proves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n33tsoDZZU0

I'll be back to debate some more, but I have to go and get some errands completed.

And scorpio is going to be much the same.

People have insane expectations for the scorpio... but its all just hype thats inflated.

It ll do what the PS4pro does, only slightly better, at a slightly higher price.

Its not going to magically sell insanely well, much like the PS4pro doesnt.

No, they do not.

Xbox one and PS4 games are manually optimized per platform, a process that takes a signficant amount of time and money, the better the optimization for a specific platform, the better the resulting performance.

You are claiming they simply take the same pc game, throw it on to a console, let the games engine select the appropriate settings and ship it as is, you are wrong, so painfully wrong that I am genuinely shocked.

They do not do this on console games. At all. They heavily heavily optimize for specific hardware configurations. They don't "scale" anything. See my previous comment for how the PS4 Pro works. It doesn't work at all like you think it does.

And if you don't think I'm correct, let's just take a third party game that game out in the first year or so the PS4 was released that no one cares about today. Like Madden 25. EA has absolutely no inclination to make an update to that game ever again, and I have a PS4 Pro. Now my PS4 Pro will run that game exactly the same as my old PS4 did. No enhancements whatsoever. Ask yourself why that is if the games "automatically scale" as you think they do.