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Buys a bunch of shooters, complains about sameness...Maybe look at other games like Gravity Rush, The Last Guardian, Bloodborne, Helldivers, Until Dawn, Infamous, Ratchet & Clank, Tearaway, or upcoming ones like Horizon, Dreams, Persona 5, Wild, or Nier: Automata. Just a thought.



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Get some indies man. Play Inside, Hyper Light Drifter, and Transistor. There's plenty of innovation on current gen systems, it's just that the AAA's aren't providing it.



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Ouroboros24 said:
vivster said:

What does steam have to do with anything. You simply do not look hard enough for good games. There are some great indie games out there. Graphics are not the issue here. Just you hating on AAA games and praising god almighty Nintendo with the "innovation" buzzword that has lost all meaning by now.

There are great games on all platforms. Blaming just a single aspect of gaming for something that is completely unrelated is just lazy.

What does steam have to do with anything.

Less emphasis on AAA and more buying indies please.

I buy indies on steam, which to me is the best way to play indies, while AAA titles are for consoles because why buy consoles if not for the AAA.  And I'm not hating, simply telling you how I feel about them.  It's a past time.  I will continue to buy AAA because that's what I do.  I play them for a good 4-5 hrs then I'm bored.   And I didn't say graphics was terrible, just that it's a gimmick as any other selling point of a game. 

As for good indies, or games in general, name one that's going to give me the same feeling I've gotten when I first played Super Mario Bros., or OOT(my first Zelda), or Metal Gear, or even Final fantasy 7.  Not hating on anything, simply asking for an innovative experience that has the power to immerse me as when I played those games for the first time.  Just asking for innovation that gets my blood going. 

As for Nintendo, that's just an example of innovation of recently. Nintendo almighty is just something you tacked on.

BTW, you get offensive really quick. 

There is no such thing that will immerse you the same way that old games did because you were younger then. Retro games try to capture this feeling but of course will never be as good as your first experiences.

If you like platformers, look at Owlboy or Shantae. For JRPGs try I am Setsuna or World of Final Fantasy. For first person games I recommend Valley or the Stanley Parable or Beginner's Guide or Gone Home. You can play Stardew Valley for that Harvest Moon itch or even Slime Rancher. There is soon gonna be a new Nier for your nostalgic action needs. There are many more but in genres I don't really care about.

And of course there is always the option to just play old games you haven't before. I currently play Gothic 2 which looks and plays like shit because the developers cared more about building a great world and story. That's what you want right? Because apparently good graphics is what makes games bad.



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Ouroboros24 said:

As for good indies, or games in general, name one that's going to give me the same feeling I've gotten when I first played Super Mario Bros., or OOT(my first Zelda), or Metal Gear, or even Final fantasy 7.  Not hating on anything, simply asking for an innovative experience that has the power to immerse me as when I played those games for the first time.  Just asking for innovation that gets my blood going. 

If you wait for games that will give you the same kind of feeling you got when playing those games, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

When you were younger, you were more impressionable. That's simply the nature of being a kid or teenager. And of course, it also comes with the fact that the industry and game styles were still in their infancy, when barely anything had been done before.



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VR is plenty new to me. It was a crappy thing in the 90's that didn't last. This time it jump started me back into gaming. Can't wait until the 24th to dive into Resident Evil 7. I haven't played that series since the 2nd one. VR made me feel like a kid again, discovering video games for the first time.

Stop playing generic shooters if they just make you feel bored. Why buy them?



It's always so odd to me when people act like graphical improvement is the only benefit of increased performance.

Beyond that, refinement of what works well is more important to me than shallow gimmicks mainly intended to draw people in before reaching an evolutionary dead end.  You can have your cow milking, I'll take incremental improvements, and we can both be happy.

It's kind of like someone saying this is better because it's new and different!

I'm only interested in "new and different" if it's also proven to be as good as or better than what we already have.  I don't want a car with square wheels just because no one has ever made a car with square wheels before.



Well... apart from DBZ you only bought cookie cutter AAA games. Of course you're gonna get bored with those. They are yearly or in accordance with the popular status quo (aka open worlds+FPS).
Try looking for different things. They are there (doesnt even have to be indies), you just aren't looking.

 

Gimmicks aren't the answer. They entertain you for an hour and then your are bored and thinking what you did with your money. What we need is variety.



pokoko said:

It's kind of like someone saying this is better because it's new and different!

That looks like an actual worthy successor to the Wii U.



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I sort of agree. This gen has been somewhat boring. Most AAA third party games don't interest me at all and it's only until recently with the release of Overwatch and Doom 2016 that AAA has actually managed to turn my head.

I've really been enjoying indies: Freedom Planet and Shantae for example were great fun! Gonna get my hands on Freedom Planet 2 and the latest Shantae once it comes as well as some other indie titles I'm hoping come the Switch's way.