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Pemalite said:
superchunk said:

Yes there are older devices that run Netflix. But that is also ignoring whether Netflix sees value in creating yet another one off app.

To be fair. Netflix shouldn't need to make another one-off app. They should be able to port their Android app over and support both with the same fork.


superchunk said:

Why would you juggle two devices? When you're playing you'd have Bluetooth headphones and the phone in your pocket.


Okay. So you need your phone to pair the Switch with to provide internet access. (Ugh.)

Then you need your phone to perform matchmaking.
You can't put your phone away as not all games have multiplayer matches that go for longer than a few minuits, one must assume you need to use your phone to deal with all of those logistics.

You also may be required to invite/uninvite people from your party, again requiring you to pull out your phone.

Then if you find someone who is annoying during the middle of a match and you wish to mute them, you again need to pull out your phone... And if you don't have headphones (I never carry mine) then you need to use your phone to talk into.

So yes. You will be required to juggle two devices... And this is only for the stuff we know about.

 

superchunk said:

I agree that I'd rather have the option  all on the one device. But Nintendo has decided to focus on its core purpose. I recognize there are reasons for this and the risks are minimal as most, not you, won't care about the lack of Netflix, etc.

I do recognize that Nintendo decided to focus on other things.

However, they should not be above constructive criticism.

It was thanks to constructive criticism that got rid of the Kinect, lower price, more performance, removal of always-online DRM on the Xbox One remember and that benefitted everyone on the platform.

Constructive criticism and the hardcore bithing and whining in the in the internet are two different things. The "constructive criticism" was also why we had Wii U in the first place. 

I'm not getting why Netflix should not make another device specific app? You really should ask them what they themselves think. If Netflix agrees, they're not making an app on Switch. Simple as that. Or if you have idea behind your view, feel free to tell us. Considering how much localisation, and other legal stuff, Netflix has to do in order to distribute the content, an app on a device is the least of their problems. Even the Wii app is getting the same content as everything else, because it's using the same database with the rest of of the apps.

As for the matchmaking, you're just making a strawman argument over it while functionality is just your own assumption, because we simply don't know how it works. Judging by the information how Nintendo is supposed to use internet, the matchmaking is server/cloud based, instead of application based, with multiple devices able to connecr your account at the same time. Pretty much like the Google accounts work, or Miiverse for that matter.



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Ganoncrotch said:

Or be in one of those rare places which offers free wifi.

But again, Switch doing what other things does wouldn't make it a device to purchase, say when it comes to the X1 Vs PS4, people say that the X1 is less appealing because it has less power and doesn't feature it's own exclusive software, obviously in the case of the switch it would have a fantastic developer making that exclusive software which you can only play on the Switch (Zelda on the Wii-u) But yeah, you would have the device as the place to go for Nintendo games over just your normal tablet for netflix and other free entertainment apps.

All I'm saying is Nintendo should not be making a person make the choice when they reach for a device of "do I pick up the cheap tablet, or my switch" they shouldn't put their games up against the unnessessary competition of something like netflix and youtube when it doesn't have to be there, they should have it so if a person is sitting down for tablet entertainment they pick up the Switch without question of what they want to do.... sure they might just use it to watch Netflix for an hour... or they might see a game on the E-Shop they wanted to buy, buy that, play it, it's the reason why the ps4/X1 want to be all in one devices, you sit at them for one thing, but you are in their closed environment then, if you want to buy spotify on the ps4 you need to go via Sonys psn store to get time for it, where they are free to advertise you games galore to tempt you into giving them more money.

To say that Nintendo has a strategy which invites putting their device down and not being the go to place for recreation time, is saying they are going with a strategy which gifts away free advertising to their rivals again... for the sake of an app which you can install on the damn Ouya lol.

Come on, free Wi-Fi might have been something a decade ago, but today you have a device to connect to internet in your pocket anyway. 

You know, when looking at the history, the PS4/X1 strategy is a losing one. It was the 80's and 90's to an extent, the devices (game centric microcomputers) that could do stuff other than gaming were supposed to replace games consoles. It was the opposite that happened, as the microcomputers were replaced as gaming devices by consoles and for the other stuff, the IBM-clone PC's took over the high end. Even Sony has said PS4 Pro is to defend against PC. Also, when you look at all the multifunction devices there are, what is the competition for them? Smartphones, PC's, tablets, PS4, PS3, Xbox 360, X1, Wii U.

Sony's problems are that at low end, the smartphones and tablets are eating away the market. Sony moves upmarket, but this is where PC is blocking them. Because of this, Sony tries to keep up with the PC hardware advancement and in front of mobile hardware advancement, as it relies on third parties that Sony is unable to have control of. 



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d21lewis said:
On a side note, did you guys know that Netflix now lets you download movies for viewing without an internet connection? It's nice.

Just heard about that! Pretty sweet.

@OP: that's too bad. Netflix would be perfect for Switch. Set it up in tabletop mode and watch a movie with friends on a trip, or catch a quick episode of House of Cards on the commute to work. It's not a deal-breaker but I hope it comes to Switch soon!



bdbdbd said:

Constructive criticism and the hardcore bithing and whining in the in the internet are two different things. The "constructive criticism" was also why we had Wii U in the first place.

You cannot point blame the consumer base for the WiiU bombing.
That was a disaster in Nintendo's own making, people voted with their wallets and wen't elsewhere.

Stop being apologetic.

bdbdbd said:

I'm not getting why Netflix should not make another device specific app?


Because they wouldn't be. Keep up with the conversation.

bdbdbd said:

 

As for the matchmaking, you're just making a strawman argument over it while functionality is just your own assumption, because we simply don't know how it works.

Are you being serious? Reggie stated that you will *need* to use your phone (Sucks if you have a Windows Phone? Or Non-Android/iOS based device?)
for matchmaking, lobbies, that kind of thing.
Of course there will be games which have slimmer options for matchmaking that doesn't require your phone...

And why are you defending this again?



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Pemalite said:
bdbdbd said:

Constructive criticism and the hardcore bithing and whining in the in the internet are two different things. The "constructive criticism" was also why we had Wii U in the first place.

You cannot point blame the consumer base for the WiiU bombing.
That was a disaster in Nintendo's own making, people voted with their wallets and wen't elsewhere.

Stop being apologetic.

bdbdbd said:

I'm not getting why Netflix should not make another device specific app?


Because they wouldn't be. Keep up with the conversation.

bdbdbd said:

 

As for the matchmaking, you're just making a strawman argument over it while functionality is just your own assumption, because we simply don't know how it works.

Are you being serious? Reggie stated that you will *need* to use your phone (Sucks if you have a Windows Phone? Or Non-Android/iOS based device?)
for matchmaking, lobbies, that kind of thing.
Of course there will be games which have slimmer options for matchmaking that doesn't require your phone...

And why are you defending this again?

Of course I'm not blaming the consumer base. I'm blaming Nintendo for making bad games. What I'm saying is, that if we didn't have the internet wide constructive criticism (I get my ass handed to my grandma in Wii Sports), that Nintendo for some reason listened to, I don't think we'd seen Wii U (as is, the least).

I thought Reggie said you need the app only to chat and online friends list. 



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The only Streaming app I want to see on the Switch is Crunchyroll. They don't support Smart TV's anymore (Really idiotic decission) and the WII U is currently the only device I use to watch crunchyroll on the TV.



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Not a big deal for me. I'd be more likely to watch Netflix on my laptop or Smart TV anyway.