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sinha on 02 April 2008
plzdontbanme said:
 

No the game took so long to port because they wanted to put in DLC they worked hard on it but it is currently impossible. If anyone is lazy it's Nintendo. Do you know how much money is loss without DLC? Even Nintendo can't put DLC in the're Wii yet.

Don't flame Rock Band.


I just bought a Wii yesterday, so I don't know the answer to this:

Do other Wii games really not have DLC? Does GH3-Wii have songs released as DLC?  Do other Wii games get new content (maps, characters, levels) via DLC?

If not, anyone blaming Rock Band (EA/Harmonix) and not Nintendo for the lack of DLC is not only a shameless fanboy but also a fucking idiot.

Obviously EA and Harmonix would love to release songs as DLC, they make a ton of money on it (6.5 million downloads already).  So if it's not happening, the blame is with Nintendo and the Wii.

And then you have to wonder how many other games are "gimped" not because of "lazy developers" but because of the limitations of the GameCube 2.

 



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sc94597 on 02 April 2008
sinha said:
plzdontbanme said:
 

No the game took so long to port because they wanted to put in DLC they worked hard on it but it is currently impossible. If anyone is lazy it's Nintendo. Do you know how much money is loss without DLC? Even Nintendo can't put DLC in the're Wii yet.

Don't flame Rock Band.


I just bought a Wii yesterday, so I don't know the answer to this:

Do other Wii games really not have DLC? Does GH3-Wii have songs released as DLC? Do other Wii games get new content (maps, characters, levels) via DLC?

If not, anyone blaming Rock Band (EA/Harmonix) and not Nintendo for the lack of DLC is not only a shameless fanboy but also a fucking idiot.

Obviously EA and Harmonix would love to release songs as DLC, they make a ton of money on it (6.5 million downloads already). So if it's not happening, the blame is with Nintendo and the Wii.

And then you have to wonder how many other games are "gimped" not because of "lazy developers" but because of the limitations of the GameCube 2.

 


 Um it is capable of DLC. FFCC:Mlak has been confiremed to get it, and multiple other games are coming with it. IT's EAs fault. 



outlawauron on 02 April 2008
DMeisterJ said:
bigjon said:
DMeisterJ said:
bigjon said:
I just don't why online is such a big deal. I would rather play it with a friend than some freakshow I don't know online.

Because you can't always get four people together at one time.

And not all people that play online are 'freak shows'.  I don't get that.  Do you not play Brawl online?  I mean, you might get matched up with 'some freak show'.

And online is only one of the major gripes.  The other being DLC, which is a huge part of the game, as the 10 million nor so downloads on a game with >1 million userbase shows.  Also, no world tour mode?  So the whole aspect of making a band, and getting fans, playing at bigger venues is all lost.  

It seems to me that lots of people want to downlplay how horrible of a game this port will be, rather than just realize that until Nintendo comes up with a solution for storing DLC, and about their lackluster online service, that game that utilize those things on the PS3 and 360 will be stripped for the Wii.  You should be mad at Nintendo, Harmonix.


no I do not play Brawl online. I play it when friends come over, I play single player a bit, I even play against computer sometimes for a warm up.... I guess I am just so used to playing smash w/ people in the room with me. To me that is most of the fun... beating my FRIENDS into a pulp : ). I would not get that kind of enjoyment playing someone online.


So RockBand is for you then, since you rather play games with people that are in the same room as you, versus playing with people online.  

I must say though, that you are in the EXTREME minority of people.  

I don't know many people at all that don't play games online.  


Bigjon-

You realize the some people play with their friends online. PS3 and 360 are manageable friends list. They work. (PS3 to a lesser extent).

I play online with friends from school. You don't have to play "freak shows".



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ClaudeLv250 on 02 April 2008

There are some ripe morons in this thread. There are even WIIWARE games with DLC, there are no excuses. Know this and get over it.

That said, if Square can swoop in and collect everyone's money with a wiiware game then clearly space is not an issue, it's an issue of developers to lazy or too stupid to take advantage of it. You hear people crying about space limitations but considering what few games out there are competently developed enough to effectively utilize money-stealing DLC it's clearly not an issue of the Wii's space being all gone when nobody is using it. But considering that this is a shoddy port of the crappy PS2 version I'm really not that surprised that the effort for DLC wasn't put into it.



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plzdontbanme on 03 April 2008
sc94597 said:
sinha said:
plzdontbanme said:
 

No the game took so long to port because they wanted to put in DLC they worked hard on it but it is currently impossible. If anyone is lazy it's Nintendo. Do you know how much money is loss without DLC? Even Nintendo can't put DLC in the're Wii yet.

Don't flame Rock Band.


I just bought a Wii yesterday, so I don't know the answer to this:

Do other Wii games really not have DLC? Does GH3-Wii have songs released as DLC? Do other Wii games get new content (maps, characters, levels) via DLC?

If not, anyone blaming Rock Band (EA/Harmonix) and not Nintendo for the lack of DLC is not only a shameless fanboy but also a fucking idiot.

Obviously EA and Harmonix would love to release songs as DLC, they make a ton of money on it (6.5 million downloads already). So if it's not happening, the blame is with Nintendo and the Wii.

And then you have to wonder how many other games are "gimped" not because of "lazy developers" but because of the limitations of the GameCube 2.

 


Um it is capable of DLC. FFCC:Mlak has been confiremed to get it, and multiple other games are coming with it. IT's EAs fault.


 MLAK is wiiware, Rock Band is not wiiware.  The I'm betting MLAK DLC would be under 10 megs.



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plzdontbanme on 03 April 2008
ClaudeLv250 said:

There are some ripe morons in this thread. There are even WIIWARE games with DLC, there are no excuses. Know this and get over it.

That said, if Square can swoop in and collect everyone's money with a wiiware game then clearly space is not an issue, it's an issue of developers to lazy or too stupid to take advantage of it. You hear people crying about space limitations but considering what few games out there are competently developed enough to effectively utilize money-stealing DLC it's clearly not an issue of the Wii's space being all gone when nobody is using it. But considering that this is a shoddy port of the crappy PS2 version I'm really not that surprised that the effort for DLC wasn't put into it.


NAME A NON WIIWARE GAME WITH DLC.  Of course WiiWare games are gonna get it because they are already downloaded, it may even be a 200kb file that unlocks DLC like Beautiful Katamari.  If EA wanted to do a lazt port (like most of their other games) this game would had came out 4 months ago with the 360/ps2/ps3.  The reason for the delay was because they wanted to put in DLC. 



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ClaudeLv250 on 03 April 2008
plzdontbanme said:
ClaudeLv250 said:

There are some ripe morons in this thread. There are even WIIWARE games with DLC, there are no excuses. Know this and get over it.

That said, if Square can swoop in and collect everyone's money with a wiiware game then clearly space is not an issue, it's an issue of developers to lazy or too stupid to take advantage of it. You hear people crying about space limitations but considering what few games out there are competently developed enough to effectively utilize money-stealing DLC it's clearly not an issue of the Wii's space being all gone when nobody is using it. But considering that this is a shoddy port of the crappy PS2 version I'm really not that surprised that the effort for DLC wasn't put into it.


NAME A NON WIIWARE GAME WITH DLC.  Of course WiiWare games are gonna get it because they are already downloaded, it may even be a 200kb file that unlocks DLC like Beautiful Katamari.  If EA wanted to do a lazt port (like most of their other games) this game would had came out 4 months ago with the 360/ps2/ps3.  The reason for the delay was because they wanted to put in DLC. 

Shiren 3. I don't know when it comes out but Sega announced that it would have DLC in the form of downloadable dungeons ages ago. This is clearly not impossible or an issue of space. I'm a bit surprised that it's the Japanese developers jumping on this first since DLC typically comes from the American companies, then again the majority of the Wii's worthwhile 3rd party support has come from Japan.

And the game was 'delayed' because there was no Rockband Wii. They missed the Wii train and like many before them they scrampled together a sloppy port of the already gimped PS2 version.

 



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plzdontbanme on 03 April 2008

How do you know this isn't an "issue of space" WiiWare does have a 40 MB limit ya know. And again SEGA could go Beautiful Katamari and make the download an unlockable 200kb file.

Obviously Nintendo didn't give a shit about DLC or WiiWare until they saw how well the ps3 and 360 are doing with them. Firmware upgrades can only do so much.



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That Guy on 03 April 2008

I'd even be happy if they sold the DLC offline, i.e. in the form of extra Discs or SD cards or something. But to not have it all together = fail.

And there's really no excuse for not having online play.



plzdontbanme on 03 April 2008

The cost is too high to do it offline.



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