It will be fun to visit this thread in one year.

I was thinking that, too.

Indeed, this one and many others.

I expected Switch to cost $299, only not with those terrible specs, overpriced accessoires, payed online, excluding a game and terrible 2017 software line up.

Do you know why those titles weren't compatible with the PSTV? Because the controllers you could use with the PSTV never had a touchscreen or rear touchpad. Now, I'm not sure if you're aware, but the Nintendo Switch has a touch screen. Every Nintendo Switch game that comes out that requires use of that touch screen wouldn't be compatible with the Switch TV either. Nintendo would run into the same problem Sony did.

However, considering you can't use the touch screen in docked mode, you're right, that list would be pretty small and almost undoubtedly wouldn't contain any of Nintendo's bigger titles.

However, it's also worth noting that the PSTV was significantly cheaper than the Vita at the time, so you'd figure with hundreds of great games available to it, it would still sell depsite the incompatibility list. Then again I got mine in a bargain bin at a grocery store for $12, and to be honest I overpaid. The PSTV looks terrible on 1080P televisions.

If retailers are forced to lower prices themselves and take a hit on profit margins on software, and possibly hardware in order to sell, they'll be hard pressed to keep buying any substansial inventory unless this thing and its games really start and then keep on moving. Retailers still have the Wii U situation fresh in mind, with stock from the very first shipment being sold years after launch.

Good job by retailers trying to push software, but it's kinda unfair to put them in that situation to begin with, and it's unlikely to help Nintendo's already strained relationship with them.

Not to outright defend the Switch or any other console or their parent companies. But when was the last time, other than the Wii, that you saw a brand new console with all new tech come out for under $300. Despite what many say, The switch is a console. It is also a portable, it is a hybrid. This is not a difficult concept and I don't understand why everyone is freaking out about the fact that it is not a standalone set top box. You'd think that everyone would actually be happy that you have the ability to pick it up and play it anywhere.

When the switch is plugged into a TV the CPU and GPU ramp up to almost the same specs of the Original XBox One. Then you take it off, and play on a lower res, but very portable screen and it ramps down to conserve battery and because it does not need the same power that it does when outputting to a larger display. Since it has equivalent power when docked it should be able to get most, or all games during this generation as a port, provided Nintendo allows for games to only be playable in docked mode.

$300 is a pittance compared to other new console releases. Everyone cheered and jeered at the PS4 coming out at $400. Everyone lauded the PS4 Pro for releasing at $400.

From a technology standpoint even the PS3 Fat (60gb) version was a steal for $600 due to it's Blu-Ray Drive and backward compatibility. In the same generation the Xbox360 + HD-DVD drive would run you the exact same price and you had to pay an additional fee for Online services for the first time.

$300 for a hybrid console-portable is a fantastic deal especially when you consider technology behind it and its accessories. I will concede that the accessories are waaaaay over-priced though, even though they pack incredible advances in tech in a very small package.

I am not trying to defend the switch or defend Nintendo, I probably won't even get the switch. I just wanted to reiterate that the price is not bad, it is not too high, nor is it too low. Honestly, for the tech you are buying it is just about the perfect price. There are less powerful android tablets with similar screen size that cost more. If you want to look at an overpriced console look at the WiiU during its last year of running, not a single price reduction during it short life.

**Edit- removed incorrect launch price for the SNES.

Yes I know why they arent compatible, doesnt change anything that.

Like I said, if Switch turns out be be relatively successful and Switch TV is compatible with the vast majority of games, especially the more popular ones than its an apples to oranges comparison.

As long as we don't know what retailers themselves pay for the games, I don't know if that's relevant. As far as I know, SRP might have a super high margin for them to sell the games in the first place. 

Exactly.. It seems a lot of people can only see value in terms of the horsepower, but for my money - and I'm sure a great deal of others, there are many other factors that come into play. Being portable/tabletop is something I place a lot of value in, and plus, the graphics look great to me anyway.

The only thing I will say to counter is that I feel while the price of the console itself is justified, the joycons and pro controller are too somewhat overpriced. I mean hell, if you want to play Arms with another person - that's another $120 just between the game and another set of joycons.

I'm also wary about paying for yet another online service. Though if it is on par with XB Live in price (if not cheaper) and quality, and big N delivers on those free monthly rentals, I'll probably cave.. I hope it's worth it because I really want to play Splatoon 2 but that's completely contingent on whether or not the online is decent/not a ripoff.