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Fact 1 - The Wii was a lot cheaper than its competition thats not the case with the Switch
Fact 2 - Its the most expensive Handhelds to ever launch



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Cerebralbore101 said:
The difference is that the Wii was $150 cheaper than the competition and came with a pack in game. This time around the Switch costs just as much as the other systems, and doesn't come with a free game. After you factor in a free Uncharted 4, the PS4 is $240. So Nintendo is asking $300 for old outdated tech, when Sony and MS are asking $240 for current gen tech.

Actually the tech in the Switch is far from old and outdated. It's much newer than both the PS4s and the Xones tech. It's just not stronger. But the architechture is more modern and mobile to boot.

If there's one complaint you actually can't really level at Nintendo with the Switch, it's the outdated tech one. Especially in comparison to the PS4 and Xone. The Tegra X1 released in 2015 compared to the Ps4 and Xone 2013 architectures. The tegra in the Switch is custom, too and might be based of the newer pascal even. We don't know yet.

It's very possibly the strongest mobile machine released to date and they couldn't really make it much stronger without gimping battery life completely. The fact that pretty much the strongest handheld possible right now is also a pretty mediocre homeconsole is unfortunate, but there's nothing Nintendo realistically could have done about that without scrapping the Switch idea entirely.

Now if you complain about overpriced accessories, I'm with you.



Cerebralbore101 said:
The difference is that the Wii was $150 cheaper than the competition and came with a pack in game. This time around the Switch costs just as much as the other systems, and doesn't come with a free game. After you factor in a free Uncharted 4, the PS4 is $240. So Nintendo is asking $300 for old outdated tech, when Sony and MS are asking $240 for current gen tech.

This.



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Nintendo need to adjust the price based on competition not just inflation LOL.



barneystinson69 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
The difference is that the Wii was $150 cheaper than the competition and came with a pack in game. This time around the Switch costs just as much as the other systems, and doesn't come with a free game. After you factor in a free Uncharted 4, the PS4 is $240. So Nintendo is asking $300 for old outdated tech, when Sony and MS are asking $240 for current gen tech.

This.

Yeah agree with that. Hell  if it's based on inflation not all country has different  inflation and current dolar rate, Nintendo should adjust the price based on the competitor. 



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TheBlackNaruto said:
This is not a shot at you but why does it seem like a lot of people are deflecting for Nintendo ever since the Switch reveal....Heck a LOT of stuff cost the same adjusted for inflation....doesn't mean that those things are not expensive now a day though....

But YES the Switch is expensive....especially coming with no game. Then add in the fact that you can get 2 other systems that are more power and come WITH a game it becomes and issue. I think that is the issue with the price and while bringing the Wii into this wasn't it also CHEAPER than the other 2 when it came out. So you have to take the entire picture into perspective not just part of it that makes it look like the price of the Switch is fine....when it isn't. Just my opinion of course and again not a shot at you at all.

The trouble with inflation figures they are very generalised, the better guide would be manufacturing and parts costs comparisons and the amount of profit that companies may or may not make at the retail price point. You could have a product with the adjusted figures being the same but one gives a $30.00 profit and the other breaks even.



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mjk45 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
This is not a shot at you but why does it seem like a lot of people are deflecting for Nintendo ever since the Switch reveal....Heck a LOT of stuff cost the same adjusted for inflation....doesn't mean that those things are not expensive now a day though....

But YES the Switch is expensive....especially coming with no game. Then add in the fact that you can get 2 other systems that are more power and come WITH a game it becomes and issue. I think that is the issue with the price and while bringing the Wii into this wasn't it also CHEAPER than the other 2 when it came out. So you have to take the entire picture into perspective not just part of it that makes it look like the price of the Switch is fine....when it isn't. Just my opinion of course and again not a shot at you at all.

The trouble with inflation figures they are very generalised, the better guide would be manufacturing and parts costs comparisons and the amount of profit that companies may or may not make at the retail price point. You could have a product with the adjusted figures being the same but one gives a $30.00 profit and the other breaks even.

This is absolutely true



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Intrinsic said:
What kinda logic is this?

Now we are adjusting for inflation?

Yes, when comparing the relative prices of products over time you must accommodate for the purchasing power of the money. $250 in 2006 has more  purchasing power than $250 today. 

 

People need to get it out of their heads that money has constant value. We must treat dollars in the past the same way we treat foreign dollars, because the value is variable. 



SuperNova said:

It's very possibly the strongest mobile machine released to date and they couldn't really make it much stronger without gimping battery life completely. The fact that pretty much the strongest handheld possible right now is also a pretty mediocre homeconsole is unfortunate, but there's nothing Nintendo realistically could have done about that without scrapping the Switch idea entirely.

I don't get this, and this is probably not levied against you but I am just responding to this now having seen something like this again from yet another member.

When people say that the switch is the strongest handheld ever built... what do they mean? Or rather, why is that news? Like what was expected? Nintendo making a new handheld 5 years after their last one and it be less powerful? Is the fact they are making something new going to by default mean its going to be the most powerful they have made? And that they are the only ones making a handheld console now wouldnt that mean that they "win" by defaullt?

And as for the second part, I have been saying it for months before we even had anything near official specs, the NS is at its heart a handheld. So of course it will make for a mediocre home console. But this is also what I believe to be the only option left to nintendo. 



Intrinsic said:

SuperNova said:

It's very possibly the strongest mobile machine released to date and they couldn't really make it much stronger without gimping battery life completely. The fact that pretty much the strongest handheld possible right now is also a pretty mediocre homeconsole is unfortunate, but there's nothing Nintendo realistically could have done about that without scrapping the Switch idea entirely.

I don't get this, and this is probably not levied against you but I am just responding to this now having seen something like this again from yet another member.

When people say that the switch is the strongest handheld ever built... what do they mean? Or rather, why is that news? Like what was expected? Nintendo making a new handheld 5 years after their last one and it be less powerful? Is the fact they are making something new going to by default mean its going to be the most powerful they have made? And that they are the only ones making a handheld console now wouldnt that mean that they "win" by defaullt?

And as for the second part, I have been saying it for months before we even had anything near official specs, the NS is at its heart a handheld. So of course it will make for a mediocre home console. But this is also what I believe to be the only option left to nintendo. 

You might notice  that I didn't say 'best handheld ever made' but 'best handheld possible'. And yes, that kind of is a big deal.

Nintendo does have a history of basing their Handheld-consoles on old, proven tech. They've done it with the Gameboy+Gameboy color, as well as with the 3DS. (Honestly not sure about the Advance and DS, but I think they followed that pholisophy at least partially as well.) The point being that Nintendo never went top-of-the line with new tech in a handheld before. In fact the specs in the Switch are impressive enough that it's doubtful if even Sony, who are known for powerful top-of-the-line Handhelds, could produce a noticably stronger one, if they relased one at the same time.

According to Nvidia the Tegra X1 is the strongest mobile chip currently on the market. There's nothing better out there. And that is unexpected for Nintendo.