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What kinda logic is this?

Now we are adjusting for inflation?



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Bandorr said:
fleischr said:

 

Value is relative.

Some people like a bonus controller. Not perfect, but convenient and usable enough for a quick coop session of Tetris, Bomberman or something else. I can tell that's not you or you.

All I'm saying is that price is pretty much the same. Scientific fact.

No you are saying far far more than that. You are trying a backdoor approach to arguing that "$250 = $300" and "no one has a problem with $250, so no one should have a problem with $300".

Otherwise your post would have left out everything under the link. The attempt at justifying that controller = game.

The fact you said more - is proof that you are saying more. Scientific fact.

There's nothing 'backdoor' about it. $250 in 2006 is the same as $300 today.

Of course in 2006 you could spend on $200 or probably less on a PS2 which had a more conventional controller and easily better library than Wii at the time - not unlike the PS4 today. At that time, with PS3 at $600 -- getting a PS3 seemed like a really far off proposition.

The PS2 still sold great in 2006 by the way. Success was not mutually exclusive between the two platforms.

No one bought the Wii because it was more powerful than the PS2. And they didn't even buy it because it was cheaper than PS3/360. They bought it for its own value proposition.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

FunFan said:
Was the Wii worth the $250?

To a lot of people at the time it was worth more than that. Between scalpers, lines, and waiting lists you technically had to pay more than just $250.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Augen said:
While you are right about inflation, I'd counter that how much disposable income do people have for entertainment today and in 2006 hasn't changed much.

Any product is worth what people pay for it, so we'll see if Nintendo got it right with $300 over next twelve months.

Again, refer to the fact that there are people who upgrade their phones every year for 600-1000 dollars. I know two people who plopped down full price (with no contract) for the new phone (though one of their phones had the screen cracked).



Egelo said:

Yet millions spend 1000 on a phone and upgrade yearly, explain that shit to me.  

Cause those people aren't actually buying the phone. They don't actually goa nd pay $500-$1000 for the phone. And that in of itself is the funny thing about consoles.

You buying a console is in a lot of ways like you starting a service plan when you buy a new phone. Their business with you starts when you pick up the console/phone. In a perfect system, we shouldn't pay a dime for the console and opt topay $15 extra for every game we buy till that $15 extra adds up to around $3-$600 or whatever the console is supposed to cost. But obviously that can't happen with consoles.



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spemanig said:
No one had to adjust for inflation when the Wii's price was revealed.


Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Bandorr said:

Oh I remembered. I saw something on reddit about consoles and their cost if you accounted for inflation.

I think the ps3 one is off since I think it launched at $600. The rest look right.

So, the value of the Dollar have been stuck since 2012 at least?



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

Wii had a good pack-in title while Switch offers a similar title for demonstrating for 50$, had immense mass appeal due to its concept and inflation proceeds without peoples sense of perceived value following. The Switch also comes without an IP port, apparently has no proper functionality as a tablet besides games and still offers poor online in an era where this is a lot more important than it was in 2006. In addition, the Switch, with its tablet form factor, will inevitably be compared to devices that multitask a lot better and serve as portals into multimedia and social media and no such devices existed that mimicked the Wii, or rather that the Wii mimicked, it was quite unique.
One example of perception of cost and price; in my home nation, gas has never been cheaper relative to median income than it has been in the past decade, but the price has risen annually and the whining and protests have risen with them, same goes for prices for groceries.

People don't adjust for inflation with perceived value, simple as that. Products of their time will be judged on the premises of contemporary products and affiliation and overall market movements. Heck; my first friend with a DVD player paid about 1500$ for it in the 90's, which was acceptable for an enthusiast at the time but not mainstream consumers.

If the mainstream market fails to see the perceived value, or rather Nintendo fails to impress it upon them, the price will be regarded as too high.
I bought a phone during christmas, a Huawei Mate 9 Pro, it costs a little less than an iPhone 7 or similar Samsung Galaxy, yet many insist I paid way too much for it due to its lower perceived value since it wasn't made by a hip manufacturer.

Short version; OP's argument is completely invalid, perceived value doesn't fit into your frame of argument.

PS: My new phone kicks the ass of both iPhone 7 and Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge...



fleischr said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
The difference is that the Wii was $150 cheaper than the competition and came with a pack in game. This time around the Switch costs just as much as the other systems, and doesn't come with a free game. After you factor in a free Uncharted 4, the PS4 is $240. So Nintendo is asking $300 for old outdated tech, when Sony and MS are asking $240 for current gen tech.

True but.. independent of whether you own or are even interested in PS4/X1, the price point of the Switch is essentially the same as the Wii. Switch is really competing for the attention of people that either already own PS4/X1 and those who really don't have interest in PS4/X1 (e.g. casuals).

Say you own a PS4 ... but no Vita, 3DS, X1, WiiU or Switch. Which is going to be most appealing to you?

3DS by a country mile. Easily 25 or more excellent games on that system. 



rjason12 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
The difference is that the Wii was $150 cheaper than the competition and came with a pack in game. This time around the Switch costs just as much as the other systems, and doesn't come with a free game. After you factor in a free Uncharted 4, the PS4 is $240. So Nintendo is asking $300 for old outdated tech, when Sony and MS are asking $240 for current gen tech.

What do people not understand?!?! Nintendo isn't using old outdated tech. This tech at the very oldest is from 2013 (which I highly doubt it is, prob newer). It's customized from top of the line Nvidia parts.

Right you are. Weaker tech, not outdated. But weaker because it is portable. Nintendo should work on getting a better battery for the Switch ASAP. Anything under four hours is a terrible battery life. If the Switch could play BoTW, or Skyrim for six hours without needing a recharge, then they could market that portable aspect like crazy.