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Dravenet7 said:
Mere deflection won't improve people's perception of Nintendo

This. 



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Whilst not as successful at this stage as the Xbox 360, the Xbox One is in literally the best place it has been all generation right now.

People are just sad (or joyous) that Scalebound has been cancelled and its breeding a lot of resentment.



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lol at people being triggered by the inclusion of 3ds in this discussion. If Nintendo had a unified console from last gen then the total sales would've been a combination of Wii U and 3ds (75 mil or damn well close, because of the consistent big game releases), so I it doesn't make sense to not include it. Just because their console and handheld divisions weren't unified under one platform like the competition doesn't mean that one half should be left out. Also Switch is a successor to both Wii U and 3ds.



Xbox isn't doing THAT badly, but M$ has lost money on the platform for so long, I wouldn't be surprised to see it get cut.



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yes Nintendo sold more handhelds than Microsoft but Sony sold more TVs than Nintendo and Microsoft sold more Windows 10 licenses than Nintendo.
Guess who wins that battle? Serious question because you and I are comparing apples to oranges.



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potato_hamster said:
Alkibiádēs said:

Most of the Wii U sales will have been first party though, Microsoft only receives royalties from third party sales, not the full $50-60.

Actually, the publisher gets less than $15 for a full $60 title. The platform owner only gets a$1 or two last I checked. Distrubutors get a cut. Stores get a cut, then there's production and shipping shipping costs. That eats up over $40 of a $60 game (the percentages change when the game retails for less than $60). When a first party publishes their own game, they get like $16 max per copy, as opposed to the $1 or so they get for third party.

Then there's second party games (like Pokemon) where Nintendo publishes the game, and owns control of the IP, but an independent studio makes the game. The royalty for that game could mean that Nintendo might only make $2-3 per copy of Pokemon sold rather than the $15 or so they'd get if they made it themselves. This came up when Pokemon Go came up, and people were discussing Nintendo's profits from that. It's actually remarkably similar for all Pokemon games for similar reasons.

and what source did you check? Because that's quite a bit different than this good ol' pie chart:


Then there's the online stores, where platform owners get ~30% of every third party sale and 100% for their own stuff.



Xbox brand already lost.
Its game over,Scalebound being dropped whas the last drop.



 

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Honestly I don't even know why we're having these same discussions when it's clear that Nintendo makes more money than both Sony and MS combined. Raw hardware/software sales mean very little in this conversation.



Dravenet7 said:
Mere deflection won't improve people's perception of Nintendo

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cosmic_drift said:
Honestly I don't even know why we're having these same discussions when it's clear that Nintendo makes more money than both Sony and MS combined. Raw hardware/software sales mean very little in this conversation.

Atm sony  makes more,and Microsoft  ofcourse  makes more then  sony  and ninty combined 



 

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