Yeah. PS4, Xbox One needs to stop. Plus graphics cards developers should abandon high end cards in favor weaker portable. What a joke. People really like to have wired wishes.

Because innovative ideas from low-end, non-AAA developers can't compete with the new pretty but stale Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed and higher costs mean more microtransactions and failed products. 

How is that even true? The indie scene is super popular on digital platforms..

I never understand how more power is not seen as innovative in gaming. It allows entirely new engines that achieve more than done prior. More innovation has come from bigger and better hardware than general creativity by a long shot. I also never understand when the debate about graphics happen and people argue that because a system has better power doesn't mean it will have better games. That is fundamentally true. But take Zelda for example. You take that same developer and let them develop it on PS4 and they can create a far superior game than they can on Switch. People just focus on how it looking better on PS4, they ignore that with more power they could create a more alive world with more going on in it. On the switch the Zelda world seems somewhat dead with very little active AI and much on the screen at a time due to power restraints. Compare that to Horizon which is cutting edge graphically, but the world looks alive and more vibrant as well. Consumers have seemed to consistently speak to what they prefer and its almost always been more cutting edge technical experiences.

The graphics arms race is inevitable.

If Sony and MS don´t keep up any other Tech/Hardware company could jump in and stole this market.

There are plent of low budget games everywhere. The Switch only advantage is Nintendo first party games.

Nintendo investing on HD rumble that no one cares about and charging 70-80 USD for a controller is definitely good for the industry and keeping costs down.  Along with Nintendo's returning free online and abundance of 3rd party, this is where the industry should be.  Sarcasm aside Nintendo is still investing heavily in hardware, just not in graphics and theres no guarantee it'll payoff.  The Wii U didn't take off and the tablet was a costly gimmick that no one wanted.  The 3DS took a while to take off and no one cares about the 3D aspect even now, the software sold the hardware.  The Wii U was overpriced because it only got 1 price cut and stuff.  I don't know man, I think Nintendo fans like risks.  If you ask the Nintendo fans here to speak up about getting 3rd party they say they don't want Nintendo to be like the competition and they want Nintendo to innovate and take risks in gaming.  The Wii U's install base following the Wii's tells the tale of taking risks and their hardware is taking risks just by being a hybrid in the sense that they might not get 3rd party ports.

Just my 2 cents.  Not trying to be aggressive.

disagree. Zelda at the level that it appears to preform on the Switch in handheld mode (which is far beyond anything the Wii U was capable of) alone is a selling point for me. Not a fantastic launch, but Zelda is far better than the crappy Wii U launch had.

let's put it this way- I am a Nintendo fan who essentially skipped the Wii U generation and have preordered the Switch + Zelda. I think its the right direction because it is graphically pretty great (considering what batteries and parts you can realistically fit into a handheld device) and somewhat innovative. Personally I enjoy handheld gaming and the concept of just throwing my system easily into a dock and jumping onto the TV to game (with improved graphics from there) seems seamless and like the sort of transitional gaming I've wanted for a long time from one system 

I don't quite agree that the Switch is where the industry should go, but I think it's great that Nintendo continues to look for new routes to take gaming to. They're the ones who continue to find new interesting ideas for gaming.

Was there a single Switch game shown that wouldn't be playable on a PS4 or XB1?

Not really from the looks of it. Better rumble is cool, but it's not a game changer.

Even the Wii U -- you couldn't really have Nintendo Land on an XBox or Playstation, not without separate hardware.

Hardware is not the pissing ground any more.

.........1,2,Switch?