I think this is precisely 'it'. It seems they discard for better or worse the idea of focus grouping for mass success/popularity, and live in an echo-chamber of acolytes who praise every idea, no matter how shoddy. So now we have a potato-specced system launching against the peak of Gen8 competition, complete with $299 no-games, no-pro-controller against competition that is often $249 with a game(s), with most people already having an existing online sub and not looking to pay for another one. Oh, with the biggest announced game available on the previous gen system as well.

The most die-hard fans will eat this up, just like the die-hard XB crowd ate up the $500 X1 that included zero games. Of course, MS had to go nuts with deals not long afterwards, will Nintendo be willing to do the same? 3DS initially looked dismal until they started to trickle out more games and lowered the price after all.

The only thing that would make me want one considering the lack of titles that interest me would be having those games and a home-only box for about half the price. I need to carry another mobile device like I need a hole in the head. And this thing is hardly my idea of mobile. My phone slips easily in my pocket, this clunky thing needs it's own bag at minimum, and has iffy battery life. Ugh.

i don't know what he is talking about. I have all the free games ms gives out.

It's like Nintendo genuinely believe they are Apple.

Not even Apple would do this.

I found the idea of the Nes/Snes monthly game quite charming and fitting for Nintendo, however this is a missed opportunity, I should be able to keep those games as long as I'm paying, Nintendo needs to do this service appealing, if they don't then it should be at least very cheap. The service can still improve with time though, since this is the first time they do this I expect as lot of mistakes at the beginning.

This service better be like $30 a year. Like wow. Legit garbage right here.

If you pay 3 years for PS+ you have access to 216 games after that time: at least 72 PS4-games (probably around 90 PS4-games thanks to cross-buy titles), at least 72 Vita-games (probably around 90 Vita-games thanks to cross-buy titles) and at least 72 PS3-games (probably around 80 PS3-games thanks to cross-buy titles). If you let your subscription run out, you temporarily lose access to these games. But if you renew that subscription you get access to the 6 games of that month + access to the other 216 games.

If you pay 3 years for XBL Gold you have access to 144 XBO-compatible games: 72 XBO-games and 72 (XBO-compatible) 360-games.  If you let your subscription run out, you temporarily lose access to these 72 XBO-games but keep access to the 72 (XBO-compatible) 360-games. If you renew that subscription you get access to the 4 games of that month + access to the 72 XBO-games.

If you pay 3 years for Nintendo Online subscription you have access to one SNES- or NES-game (and zero Switch-games) in the last month of the subscription. If you let your subscription run out, you have access to none of NES- or SNES-games of these 3 years. If you renew that subscription only get access to the VC-game of that month (and zero Switch-games).

Do you really not see the difference between these subscription models and their different value?

We have to provide some feedback about this. I think Nintendo is listening to consumers right now (MK battle mode, open-world Mario game...). So if the service is, let's say, 60€, it's obviously a bad deal if you compare it with the other companies. If you can keep the games, and Nintendo provides some sweet deals, that'd be "fine" (I'm still against paid online, but I was certain Nintendo would do this seeing how everybody jumped to PSPlus with ease).

I'd not be willing to pay more than 20 as things are right now.

I do. The first two gives terrible indie games I don't want to play just as an excuse to pay for online. The other gives me opportunity to play Top Gear and other great games with thounsands of people online as a bonus for an ONLINE subscription.

I didn't say there was no difference. Just that they're both renting. 

You stop paying, you stop playing.

Dont delude yourself that you're keeping anything  

lets hope its only 10 bucks a year