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I'm not going to take any blame for this. Consumer power? Pah, these companies do what they want.



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I will gladly take the blame. Having a paid for, unified, and reliable network is the best thing consoles offer. I have lived this whole online thing from the begginings to now, and the best services are XBL and PSN (Since PS4). PC is an absolute mess, PSN during PS3 was unreliable, unstable, and unpredictable. Having a steady cash flow, to keep servers upgraded, keep up security, enhance features, and innovate new features is the only path forward for qaulity connected gaming experiences.



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10/03/2010 

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I don't pay for online, I do that on PC. I will get the Switch Day 1. I won't pay for online. I'll just stay offline.



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Darwinianevolution said:

I'm in a really bad mood right now. Considering the amount of work I have right now, I was expecting this presentation to brighten my week. But nope.

What was shown was almost exciting. Almost. The thing definitively has better 3rd party support than the U, at least in theory, a lot of great Nintendo titles, it even has Bomberman! When did that happen, Konami?

And even after all that, I could not enjoy the presentation due to a key factor. Nintendo, like the rest of console manufacturers, has decided to create a fee to access multiplayer online. Right now, all major consoles have their online blocked by a fee. An online sercive which is weaker and more expensive than the internet I'm using from my computer. And it's just pathetic. Nintendo could have easily kept their online services free and gained a decent advantage against their competitors, right? Or it could have, you know, kept its head above the trend and not develue their own games like that. Can you imagine how expensive is playing a Nintendo game going to be? Aside from the exclusive console and the price of the game, you will need to buy the DLC plus the Amiibos that unlock content AND pay the online fee to play with your friends! Are they really that greedy?

But you know who's really to blame? Are the executives of Nintendo to blame? No, they just follow the most money-wise decision. Are the investers to blame? No, they just want money. Do you know who's really to blame here for this madness here?

You. The consumer. You did this.

You allowed this to happen. You bought into the XBox Live services with the OG and the 360, and did not complain. When the PS4 took its ffree online away, you did not care, too bussy praising the console's wonders after that XBOne reveal, and made it into the best selling system of the gen by far. And now with Nintendo? Do I see people complaining about this in droves, with a push similar of that from the XBOne reveal to undo this? No. You just assumed it''s the normal thing, to pay for a service you've already paid. You made it happen, people. The 360 was not hurt finantially or in marketshare for the fees, if anything it helped Microsoft gain some extra cash to cover the 360 costs. The PS4 sure as hell wasn't affected finantially or in marketshare, its profits alone surpass most companies! What is Nintendo going to think? Offering a free service is not a selling point anymore, people doesn't seem to care about it! Of course they are going to jump to the bandwagon, there's no reason not to! Except, you know, some form of respect for the costumer.

I don't care how great the subscription bonuses are, or how cheap it is compared to the other consoles. It should have never affected online multiplayer! All the companies that have adopted this bussiness modelhave no real need to block the online, they just think it's a good idea to push their subscriptions! That is theft, is the kidnapping of half of the game you bought in exchange for a monthly ransom!

Shame on you Microsoft for making this thing popular, shame on you Sony for putting them on the PS4 and imitating the worst habit of your competitor, shame on you Nintendo for caving into the money pressure and definitively killing free online on consoles, and shame ond you consumers for letting this thing become popular!

I need to fucking sleep right now.

 

Also, what is up with the Mario game? Didn't they learn from Sonic 06 that mixing the real world with cartoony characters can end up in disaster?

Get over it it's like 16 cents a day probably based on PSN/XBL prices and I would imagine it will be even cheaper.

You'll actually get a much better service

$60 at most per year for  Nintendo

Extra cup of coffee (weekdays only) per year $707

Netflix cheapest plan per year $95.88 (Good shows crappy movies to choose from)



Panama said:
Tl;dr LOL but honestly Nintendos online service is horrific. If paying provides me with a functional service then so be it.

Maybe. But considering that psn+ didnt make MP better,  server speeds faster or even the interface of the shop better. I dont think that nintendos online stuff will become any better soon either. Maybe in several years after tons of upgrades from the money they get of the fees. 



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This is certainly good for Nintendo, the cash injection from just putting online behind a paywall will be a big boost. PSN alone makes more money than all of Nintendo http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-28-sonys-psn-is-making-more-money-than-all-of-nintendo

The bad side for Nintendo is to sell the paywall, can they do it? I have Splatoon 2 in mind, but it's no CoD and BF1. I expect the impact of online to be once again small with Nintendo.



Haven't paid for online yet, so don't blame me.but it'll be cool to see Nintendo fans not being able to use this anymore



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Well, they just killed my interest in Splatoon 2. I will buy the Switch but I refuse to pay for that crap online service or any future online-focused game they decide to make. They could've simply made it optional so everyone wins, but no, they rather try to force us to pay for something that should be free in the first place.



BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:
Haven't paid for online yet, so don't blame me.but it'll be cool to see Nintendo fans not being able to use this anymore

Boy if we get some of those quotes about Nintendo and paid online...
Necrobumping can get wild if people are willing to look for it.

the mods will have a full month... maybe that's why they are recruiting



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

No it's solely Microsoft fault. If they didn't introduce it then it would have never existed.