That means nothing, Dena have never done an online service for a mainstream games console, it took Microsoft a long time to shape Xbox Live into what it is today, it took Sony a long time to shape PSN into what it is today (even before it was PS+) it'll be late in the switches lifetime or more likely into their next system (assuming ones made) before the services is passable let alone good.

Sony are still playing catch-up in service quality with Microsoft on account of Microsoft's easy access to cloud computing and storage, an extensive network that is unmatched on any other system, and a service Sony have spent the past two gens building an infrastructure around to keep up with, just partnering with Dena isn't going to speed that up, Nintendo have only very recently even allowed an actual online account to be made, moving forward with that and building up an infrastructure to handle a good online service is going to take them untold piles of cash and lots and lots of time.

I blame Global Warming

yea that's what I've been seeing aswell, the people who don't frequent gaming sites seem to be far more positive about the Switch

Not me. I have refused to pay it on both Xbox and PS4. I really don't care enough about console online play to pay fee's. I can do it for free on the PC.

I never paid for online, I own a ps4 but I don't have PS+ I feel like its a scam since I can play games for free on my pc. I did purchase a small few day trial for some discounts at certain points.

However, its a bad thing but theres no getting rid of it now, maybe microsoft will do it with their first party titles that have cross play, but thats the only scenario I see, the online profits are so big from subscriptions :(

Wow, weren't Nintendo fans taking the piss for Xbox and PS gamers paying for online, yet now some Nintendo fans are ok with it.

To be fair there was plenty of that from Sony fans when PS4 was revealed to be pay for online too, so it's expected.

Sure, I'm not saying there isn't some Nintendo audience that isn't down for that.
But as my post focused on, there is casual and 2nd console market for which paid online is more of an issue.
Casuals because it's extra persistent costs when they aren't necessarily dedicated to large game library,
and 2nd console potential customers because they are already paying another paid online fee for main console.
Same as why people are not inclined to pay to subscribe to multiple video streaming services.
Sure some do, but most people will choose the one that hits the majority of what they want and leave it at that.
Like I said, it's not that there isn't some audience that will go for this, but that Nintendo is limiting themselves from other sectors.
And casuals and 2nd console types together comprise a very large market compared to say, Wii U base, right?
If people were expecting Nintendo to do better performance than WiiU+3DS, this doesn't seem good strategy for that.

You allowed this to happen. You bought into the XBox Live services with the OG and the 360, and did not complain

Are you kind of new to forums in general?  Last generation at all forums we had nothing than complaints about paid online on X360. The amount of 'I would never buy a console that has not free online comments' were insane....    but gold and ps plus give some good sales/'freebies' every month so people don't mind that much...They have proven themself....

The issue with Nintendo ofcourse is that they havn't proven themself yet and make it paid online...

Nintendo isn't for you anymore. Its not for me anymore either. Both of us wanted different things but we were both tossed aside. We are the die hard Nintendo fans that they think will buy the system because its Nintendo. They are already counting us as sales. Honestly they couldn't care less what we do.

They want the blue ocean that made Wii a hit. And they will do anything to get it, which means doing stuff like the online service. The tablet system and the waggle controllers again. Our opinion matters little to Nintendo.